The Infiltrators: How Undocumented Activists Snuck Into Immigration Jail to Fight Deportations



this is democracy now I'm Amy Goodman an immigrant rights activist has been detained in Florida just weeks after he appeared in a Claim film at the Sundance Film Festival about activists infiltrating and exposing for-profit immigrant detention jails Claudia Rojas was apprehended Wednesday by immigration and customs enforcement after an annual check-in he's now being held at the chrome Detention Center where he faces immediate deportation his lawyer says his arrest is linked to the film featuring his activism it's called the infiltrators the gripping hybrid documentary dramatic feature was a smash success at Sundance will play at the Miami Film Festival Tuesday but Claudia Rojas will not be there to see it attorney sandy Pineda told The Washington Post quote I definitely think it's retaliation for them to take the stance and to just arrest him so suddenly for no apparent reason it's very unusual she said the infiltrators is based on the incredible true story of undocumented immigrants who purposefully got themselves arrested by federal authorities in order to infiltrate the Broward transitional center in Florida and organized the prisoners within its walls Claudia Rojas worked with the activists on the inside a father of two with no criminal record he spent seven months at Broward in 2012 after he was detained by ice officials outside his Florida home the scene was portrayed in the infiltrators it begins with a lawn care worker in Broward County Florida our Inside Man was Claudia Troy house he just didn't know it you my life was pretty ordinary just like anyone else I'd go home after work I like to go fishing on weekends family back in Argentina I'm at the park with Ileana who's a Friday morning manana a sigh gotta take out the trash I don't know theta I went out wearing only shorts at the end of that clip we see an actor playing Claudio Rojas being ambushed by ice officers as he takes out the trash the infiltrators directed by Christina bada and Alex Rivera features video ana martinez and marko Saavedra young dreamers who were brought to the United States as children as organizers with the National immigrant youth alliance midian Marco enter the Broward transition transitional center in 2012 and went undercover to expose conditions at the detention center and help immigrants fight deportations they worked with activists on the outside including Mohamed Abdullahi a young gay undocumented Iranian immigrant when they were arrested and jailed inside they worked alongside Claudia Rojas who eventually was relief from detention after a highly publicized hunger strike now Claudia Rojas faces deportation once again well democracy now sat down with Alex Rivera vidi Diana Martinez and Mohamed Abdullahi this year at the Sundance Film Festival I began by asking co-director Alex Rivera why he made the film both christina Avada my co-director and myself we both come from immigrant families we have undocumented family members and when we decided to become filmmakers we sort of dove into border issues and immigration issues as a kind of lifelong commitment really I've been making work sort of in and around the question of immigration for about 20 years but in 2010 we saw something that we'd never seen before which was undocumented immigrants risking deportation as part of an act of political protest doing sit-ins blocking roads sitting in John McCain's office and risking deportation to sort of force a decision on behalf of the government about their status and it was a disturbing thing to see in the news it was shocking and and I wanted to understand it better and so through some mutual friends I reached out to what would become the National immigrant youth alliance to Mohammed and the group of other young undocumented folks who surrounded him or worked with him and said I want to make a film and I thought it's gonna make a short film it would be a month or two and every time I tried to edit the film they went into something more interesting more radical and so I had to stop editing and Christina and I just started to kind of film and try to wrestle with what was unfolding in this moment of great activism and sort of experimentation now what's interesting is you didn't make a documentary here so talk about that choice sure so I film booth the National we didn't use the lines for about two years and after that cycle of action after they sort of after daca was passed and the movement kind of settled down a little bit we looked back at the footage and this one part of the story which was the infiltration of the Broward Detention Center seemed like the story that had a really fantastic kind of beginning middle and end and by focusing on on one story you could see a lot of other dynamics a lot of other histories a lot of other problems and so the only problem with that though was that we only were able to film half of this story meaning that we were with this activist group that was sending undocumented folks into the detention center but once they went in they disappeared they disappeared from our camera and they disappeared from there their friends on the outside and so how do you tell a story in which you could only see half of it in this visual medium and so our solution was to work in a kind of hybrid form where on the outside of the detention center we're with the real people going through this real action in real time but then when they go into the detention center we turn them into actors and we use wardrobe hair makeup to try to make a kind of continuity so you know as a viewer you know who you're following but you also see there's a little difference and so the character is going to this kind of suspended place they're suspended in the detention center and also suspended in this sort of format of fiction and so the two forms as you call it the black box they're entering the black into the black box and you feel it texturally in the film itself that they're in this other landscape but then in the tension they sometimes pick up the phone and call out to the documentary later and so both Christina and I it's it's important to us as filmmakers to try to tell stories that are urgent tell stories that are relevant to the political moment we're living in but also to play with the form and invite audience and audience and to see a film that's as weird formally and as adventurous in its form as the activists were in their actions I'm secretly hoping that after you get your awards here at Sundance that you turn this film into it's kind of an immigrant version of orange is the new black but we'll talk about that later so very Martinez you are the real undocumented immigrant who goes into the detention center in 2012 we spoke to you in the detention center but let's go back a little bit and talk about this decision that you made I mean you were risking everything talk about your life here where you were born and why you would voluntarily try to get yourself arrested or detained so that you're taken into a center that could lead to your deportation yeah well I was I was born in Mexico and I was brought here to the US when I was seven years old and then I when I graduated high school and I couldn't go to college because of my status I you lived in I lived in North Carolina and that's where I grew up and everything and so I became active in the community as a result of that background and and I started an immigrant you sled organization in North Carolina and then we started working on deportation cases and by working cases I mean we would hear that our friends were getting deported lots of dreamers at the time youth that have been brought here as children and couldn't you know were undocumented and when you come out as undocumented I was not look like 2009 was when I was female that was like 10 years ago so I was like 22 yeah were you scared where did you make your pronouncement yes it was at this rally actually where somebody had told people my story in like you know like like settings like private settings but never like publicly until somebody we were at this rally somebody had heard my story and they handed me a mic and they said we talk and so I started talking about about you know who I was and being undocumented and that was the first time that I came who are you afraid was ice their eyes wasn't there but the police was there and I was definitely afraid but but I was willing to face that fear because living in the shadows was no longer an option for me so you became an activist yes and talk about what you decided to do in 2012 and let's be clear this isn't under Trump this is under President Obama yes thank you Amy for clarifying that yeah I decided to to turn myself in and be a part of this action when I learned that there was a woman section Marco let us know that and and we had been like I was explaining we had been working with people who were facing deportation for several years at that point and we knew that we had the ability to stop our deportation and so even though it was a risk I was willing to take that risk because I knew that we had the power to get me out if things went south let's go right now to go who was the first of the undocumented immigrants to turn himself in at the Broward Detention Center he came on Democracy Now afterwards and talked about how tough this decision was and what happened what we found and what we've developed since we started this campaign and I was in the center for about 23 days was many many detainees who as you said qualify as low priority for deportation including the case of Claudia Rojas who's an Argentinean father and is now on his 17th day of his hunger strike because as an expression of his face but also as a statement saying that the worst has already happened to me being separated from my family for the past six months and and using his body as a sacrifice where as an example of the sacrifice that he's already injured he's willing to do that and because of that was separated from and was taken from Broward transitional center to chrome' Detention Facility in order to be removed from the other detainees that were also beginning to organize as he had what was his story why is he one of the people who would be released under Obama's program under the prosecutorial discretion memo correct as outlined in the summer of 2011 he would be a perfect candidate he was a removal the sit-ins about two years ago when he was detained with a son after kind of a traffic a minor traffic infraction they were trying to enter a port and they didn't have valid identification and so they were both in detention for three months and as well his son is DREAM Act eligible emiliano Rojas and so his case was dropped but Claudius received 120 days to leave the country and disobeyed it because he'd rather choose to stay with his family and provide for them and so receiving in a deportation order not obeying it now that's the biggest thing that that is really hurting his campaign for his release so that's Marco describing on Democracy Now who is featured in this film both the reenactment of when he went inside with an actor and also himself when he gets out via D described what happened to you you go into the the where did you go yeah so my first attempt was at the Customs and Border Patrol office where marco was able to turn himself in and I was unsuccessful the second that's what did you say I said I was I was I think what it the reason that I was unsuccessful is because I was dressed very nicely I had a nice like summer dress and I had makeup on and and so I just said I think I said I want to turn myself in but like I tried to do broken English that like really sounded like I was playing around because I didn't prepare like I didn't think it was gonna be that difficult and when the officer gave me this look like what are you doing here like what do you want and then he called another officer and that's when I realized oh this isn't working I'm just gonna go yeah because he said I saw you get out of the car when you dropped you off and you know and so yeah so at that point I just say okay I'm this is the wrong place I'm gonna go by and then we had to try again later but in order to try again we actually played through the role of like and even like I dressed differently to fit the to fit what like a day laborer looks like you know and sound like that I mean I spoke only Spanish and then I I basically had to bag and where did you turn yourself and then I turned myself in successfully the second time it was at a port event the fort lauderdale port of entry and what did you say I was crying I said that my husband had been deported that I had been fired that I had no job and that I just needed to be I just wanted to go and that I had nothing left here and what is cried and they they didn't want to take me they said are you sure are you sure that you can probably do more for your family if you stay here you know we can find you help and we can I said no no I don't want to be here please just take me I had to beg them and cry and you said you're undocumented yes yes wouldn't that be enough for them to take you that's what you would think right yeah for all the true people who are trying not to get deported egg and say you're undocumented but they ultimately took you right they ultimately did yes yes I was um I wasn't handcuffed at that moment I was actually I think they were still trying to figure out like what to do and why I was begging to be deported they transferred me to the Customs and Border Patrol facility there they processed me again where they pulled up actually some of my arrest records of being arrested and other like actions other protesting stuff but I was able to get around that by like saying other stuff so as to not say oh yeah I protested that's why I got I have an arrest record and then I was taken to a room for several hours until they finally drove me to UM – Brower transitional center so described walking into Broward and what that felt like you were put in an orange jumpsuit it wasn't an orange jumpsuit that I was on put in it was actually a gray like yeah just gray just like sweatpants and like sweatshirt and and it took hours for me to be processed I mean when I finally made it into my room and Broward it was like 5:00 a.m. I turned myself in at 7 p.m. so it took hours so describe the detention center who you are placed with and then how you started to come out – this was a woman's yes women's facility yes Broward has both men and women but you're divided yes Broward has way less women than men there's only like up to a hundred women and there's like 600 men so the women's area is very like it's very secluded it's it's one it's one hallway with lots of rooms I actually ended up in the same room as Maria when I when I got into the room she saw me when I got there in the morning and she helped me do my bed and everything and the next morning when we went to lunch i I just like started talking to her and and the other girls and I told her you know yeah we've been in touch with my DSO with with the husband of someone here and she said who to tell me and and I told her yet maria maria solidad and she said and we just looked at each other and we were like she was like that's that that's me and and I heard about this but I didn't know that it was real that it was really gonna happen and she was just blown away and I was blown away that I ended up in the same room as her it was crazy this is democracy now I'm Amy Goodman we're looking at the infiltrators a new film based on the incredible true story of undocumented immigrants who purposefully got themselves arrested by federal authorities in order to infiltrate a for-profit immigrant jail in Florida we spoke with the co-director Alex Rivera and the activists featured in the film vidi Diana Martinez and Mohamed Abdullahi at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City Utah talk about this coordination on the outside who decides to go in who decides to stay outside no you were born in Iran you're undocumented you're not even protected by daca right now so everything you're doing is unprotected vide you now have Danka protection well yes but I would argue daca is not a protection yeah why because it's not I mean it's discretionary the same way that I got it I can get it taken away so Moe you're you decided not to go inside you'd coordinate and what does it mean to coordinate and explain what information you needed from people on the inside to help them yeah I mean I couldn't go inside the borough Detention Center because I also don't speak Spanish one of my limitations in terms of our outside role in how we decided how folks went in we had really been doing deportation cases since we were advocating for the DREAM Act and when we were advocating for the DREAM Act we had a lot of friends getting deported and we learned sort of through the Obama administration how we can build support for our friends to stop their deportations and so whenever we got to the Broward Detention Center we had sort of figured out that we can safely get folks in to gather stories and get them out whenever the time was right that was sort of our political calculation the goal of Broward was this came right after daca that was like the important thing for us when daca was announced the folks from the National immigrant youth lines we were occupying Obama's campaign offices we were still sitting in offices the day after the announcement sort of trying to tell the world that there are going to be dreamers getting deported this policy is not going to be executed fully and we sort of found our voices going into the void and so that was 2012 he was running for re-election so it was all over the country happen yeah June 2012 we were sitting in the offices and we just sort of realized we were just screaming into the void nobody's listening to us and that's when sort of the plan for Broward was hatched of how can we show everybody that regardless of what they say they're doing behind the scenes our people are actually being harmed and so we went down to Florida as the outside team our role was pretty much the minute that the folks inside got access to the phone which was like 7:00 a.m. until 11 p.m. they would start calling us and giving us information so the first day that Marco got inside the detention center that day he called us like around 8:30 in the morning and he had a list of names and a numbers of people inside the detention center with their family contacts so I would literally just sit there with a sketchpad he would give me a name a number phone number name a number phone number we did that over and over every single day until he was released as the outside team it wasn't just a few of us we were in a sort of house in Florida with about four of us that were on the ground that were the point of contact with families getting information helping design campaigns locally but we were had the entire backing of the national immigrant youth alliance so we had a whole team that was in Philadelphia and Michigan Ohio that would draft petitions we had another group of folks that were all law students that would draft legal filings now the key was and beauty in the fill Marko's as usual marco is usually doing this but getting these prisoners to sign away their privacy rights so people could learn about their case did you also do that with the women so so that's that's where like the the trust issue comes in and because there wasn't I mean there were there were women who did it but there wasn't as many and there wasn't as because of the the the mistrust and the what if this gets me deported and what is the goal though if they sign away their privacy rights how does that help them get out because that's the only way that congressional offices agree to enquire with DHS with Department of Homeland Security ice about the status of their cases and Alex is it true the way it all happened I mean you had Marco inside and he was getting all these documents somehow ice caught on and the geo group which runs the president we'll talk about that in a minute that he was handing papers to someone in the visiting room so they said no longer could they hand papers to each other is that how it went yeah that's right I mean the film is kind of a hybrid in-between documentary and fiction and in the fictional world we sometimes synthesize and condense things this sort of big shape of the story is based entirely on the truth and so one of the threads in the story it's kind of as directors we tried to amplify kind of a heist element to it we sometimes call that the Ocean's eleven of immigration we wanted to make a film that would bring in a new kind of audience for this type of a story so you have Moe dropping the this envelopes of privacy waivers into the garbage and some other immigrant who was pushing the garbage along would go drop it onto the floor and the guy pushing the broom would go into the detention waiting room pushing this room with papers under it and then the immigrant activists in the waiting room would pick up the document and drop other documents so that others could sigh and you know like that and that that's the essence of the truth that basically that these privacy waivers were a part an essential part of the campaign to basically turn the detention center inside out the detention center is designed to disappear people to make them invisible and when they sign away their privacy rights which sounds vulnerable it sounds risky but it actually is part of empowerment letting letting the inside be seen by journalists and by politicians so these papers going in and out quickly were essential to the campaign and so as storytellers we tried to kind of amplify that that element of it and know how many people were you able to document inside we had 350 folks that we were in direct contact with by the end of that three weeks and we had missed probably a good two three hundred phone calls we had about a hundred fifty active campaigns that we were directly working on and there was about a hundred twenty folks that we saw get out on discretion moments when you would call a family member on the outside we're so touching so beautiful you talked about how important that was just to you to keep going but describe that yeah I mean for us like the thought that we constantly had going in our minds as we were working on this project is how can the system be so broken that the best hope these people have is a group of undocumented youth have not gone to college we're not licensed attorneys we're not anything and we are somehow the best hope people have and so it was very sort of re-energizing for us to connect with other undocumented people and have them see through our actions and our working together that as undocumented folks we can empower one another and really achieve these things and that's what those happy moments really meant for okay let's talk about the uprising in the courtyard Marco is taken everyone is afraid he's going to be deported yeah and then this chant goes up Libertad freedom freedom and everyone who had been very afraid and quiet suddenly it's chanting yes yes I mean I just I remember hearing it when I was when I was finally taken downstairs again and put in a room and they said you need it you need to put out you need to change out and I said where's my phone and they're like we were not giving you that and I'm like the whole time you know I'm trying to get my phone because I just wanted a document stuff but they wouldn't give it to me so anyways so then I start hearing when they stick me in this room and I'm like where's Marco and then I started hearing the chanting and I'm like oh god what's going on it was like something out of a movie oh sweet you're converging no you and the other at the documented activists and others your allies are converging on the outside of the jail of the detention center as the inside people are shouting Libertad freedom freedom yeah I mean we were by the point BT and Marco were ready to get out of the detention center we felt like we had made our point to every single guard ice official etc that existed in Florida that we will go to no lengths to help our families and yeah so we went through you would go to all lengths we would go to all lengths on any links I mean I think for me the real undercurrent of this action at Broward was that we wanted to send a message to the ice officers Border Patrol every single time you detain somebody could they be an infiltrator we don't know and so that's really what we wanted to get across is to get them to second-guess every single action they have I think there's like for the media for example when we went public that vdd Ana was inside and Marco was inside we were very intentional that every single room inside of that Detention Center had a TV because they wanted people to just be like zombies looking at the TV we knew that the folks that are inside are always watching certain media channels and so we specifically worked on deals with those media outlets I mean every little tiny bit of this action was very planned to use the system against itself in a way that other folks can replicate and that's what for me personally I think this project and this film and everything can really be a flare for a lot of folks who may lack the clear tip creativity the energy or to know that we can do more than sort of like resist right now that's what message that we want this film to get to people is that you can use every little bit of it I think by the end of the infiltration close to when Marco was about to get out I mean we were to the point where we would tell people that would call go to room 306 pick up a blank privacy waiver give it to room 205 and they'll deliver it to us like yeah it's easy who were you able to get out you and Marco did you were you actually able to free people oh yeah I mean this was after we got kicked out of of Broward we stayed around for six months so we didn't I didn't live in Florida prior to this I mean this I went there specifically for this project so we continued working for like six months on getting people release and the lux if you could talk about where geo fits in and where does ice fit in how does this work we're talking about government and we're talking about private companies sure sure yes so in the film had to sort of simplify things so you really see a lot of that you see a lot of the Geo Corporation in the film the Geo Corporation owns the facility runs it they administer a labor program which has been the subject of a recent lawsuit because they pay the detainees a dollar a day and the real way that they kind of compelled detainees to work to clean the floors to to wash the uniforms to cook the food to run the entire facility for a wage of $1 a day the way they compel that labor is through withholding visitation rights so if you refuse to work you get to see your family your loved ones once every two weeks but if you participate in this basically forced labor program then you get to see your loved ones once a week and I remember when Marko emerged from the detention center that was the first thing he was talking about I think he sort of learned that inside I learned it from him and it was shocking and today it is the subject of a lawsuit the infiltrators co-director Alex Rivera an immigrant rights activist vidi Diana Martinez and Mohamed Abdullahi the infiltrators will be screened at the Miami Film Festival on Tuesday and then starting Friday at South by Southwest in Austin Texas and that does it for the show a very fond farewell to Ariel boon we will miss your passion your dedication your wisdom and your puns Thunderdome star you have made democracy now so much better I'm speaking in Denver March 15 that East High School check our website I'm Amy Goodman thanks so much for joining us you you




Comments
  1. If you coming illegal you know that is again the law then assume the consequences , Complaint about it is abusive of this generous country, I believe he like Argentinean think the same about Bolivians an Chileans illegal in their country, pure hipocresy , Law has to be respected

  2. USA is not the problem. Illegal Aliens create the problem. Other BAD countries, societies create the problem: Overpopulation, poverty, corruption, violence.
    Spanish Catholic societies are a big problem. Close the doors on the Vatican, close the USA Embassy to Vatican. International Child Sex Abusers = Catholics. mcg-truth

  3. I wonder if these progressive "infiltrators" would have a negative reaction to their homes being invaded, their possessions ransacked and their loved ones bound and brutalized.

  4. Yes let if be CLEAR!!! UNDER the Obama and BIDEN!!! Yes the Joe Biden that wants to run in 2020… I hope immigrants do not fall for BIDEN in 2020… No one cares more than Sen. Bernie Sanders… 2020

  5. I thought those deported were the mal hombres? Rapist, drug dealers, murders… WTF… I keep hearing all these people, being deported just becuase… like what the heck… WE NEED to ABOLISH ICE!!! All those ICE agents will have to ANSWER TO GOD the father, JESUS the son and the HOLY SPIRIT!!! I hope they enjoy their lives here on earth… because they will ALL burn for iternity for their part of criminal injustice to humanity…

  6. Exactly how will importing under educated unskilled third world failures help America? Any brain surgeons or millionaires coming in? If they had anything to offer they would have fixed their own country. Are we required to take in all 7 billion on earth? Why is obeying laws so hard to understand? Can we US citizens just start disobeying any law we like? I think that is called anarchy.. Take a good look at the personal lifestyle of those defending illegals.. In no way do they mirror 99% of Americans

  7. You keep calling yourself an immigrant and you are here illegally. Obviously if you're willing to break the laws of our country it makes one wonder how many other laws you're willing to break. For example would you please tell me whose social security number that you have stolen, whose identity have you thieved?

  8. There wouldn’t be an immigration problem if religion would allow birth control. Send America’s illegal immigration bill to the Vatican. Organized religion is nothing more than a tax free pyramid scheme.

  9. This station is an actual front for the enemies of this country, and these three “activists” are nothing but the enemy soldiers disguised as Americans who have infiltrated this country to destroy our culture , our western values, and our government . These three, their liberal supporters and the Democratic Party will turn this country into a third world hell hole, something that Ben Ladin or ISIS couldn’t accomplish. And sadly they will have conquered and destroyed us with the stupid and naive Americans cheering them on!

  10. I’m so frustrated reading the comments in which you try to reason with someone pre-committed to fictitious thinking. Everyone forgets that borders are imaginary, made up, completely fabricated… fictional. The only reason people think that they exist at all, is well, because you all merely believe that they do.

    Their only utility is to divide groups of people from one another out of a selfish, greedy, unbalanced quest for security. It might just be the reason why your governments participate in so many wars, HMM? Gotta have all those resources to yourselves…

    There is nothing that necessitates borders, apart from feelings of psycho-somatic insecurity. This psycho-somatic insecurity festers in your little brains and makes you hate each other just for being different or for being born “over there.” What’s worse is that, there is nothing substantial in the world causing such a division. From North to South, it is all one continuous planet. The division is fabricated by your beliefs.

    And of course, now you all have invented reasons to fabricate legitimization for borders by inventing an economy and fabricating claim to the resources that just so happened to have arisen in arbitrary places as a result of the formation of your planet four-and-a-half billion years ago. Therefore, you engage in apologetics to defend keeping one group of people out of the "confines" of the land (blatant nationalism, more fictitious thinking) because they can't stand to see "outsiders" partaking in the abundance. Having to share with "the other" offends your greedy sensibilities.

    Your planet is a monopoly board with uneven starting positions. Resources do not exist in equal distribution everywhere, and your starting position (for most everyone) is the place in which you were born. Under the framework invented by generations before, you are only allowed to lay claim to resources that exist within the imaginary confines of the border. That is, unless someone else has laid claim to it first… which then involves the delusional act of bartering asset for resources.

    What backs-up that asset? Gold? Oil? So then you people further engage in delusional behavior by sacretizing a certain type of resource in order to fabricate legitimization for your own buying-power. There is nothing intrinsically valuable about gold, only what people assign to it. You call it a “precious” metal – which is blatant sacretization – imposing value without justifying it. Your believing it has that value gives it that power. You might as well reassign the sanctity you presume of “precious” resources to the paper trash that you keep in your wallet. Nothing about the world changes under that paradigm, and so money is based on NOTHING. Nothing except belief, and the arbitrary arrangement of digits that your employer “pays” to you in the bank.

    Of course, I am not denying that exchanging money for goods is useful under this fictitious paradigm; I am merely rejecting the legitimacy of your belief to participate in it.

    Laying claim to vast numbers of resources is an act of hoarding, which demonstrates the greedy behavior that underlies it all. And you people do it to damn near everything, with colossal destructive impact on the environment. You thought you could just exploit limited resources indefinitely… with no regard for your own survival? Naw, your own immediate comfort is more important, right??

    No-one actually cares about making the undocumented "enter" a country via some arbitrary fictional legal process that you all love and cling onto so much. They just want the less-fortunate to suffer out of some sick egotistical self-satisfaction and personal comfort of having everything they need and screw everyone else.

    Fix your damn planet.

  11. Scumbags. How can you celebrate these selfish anti-Americans? Only a person born into big money suffering from white guilt could entertain this horsesh*t. Try living where regular Americans and their aged parents do to to realize what assh*le blue collar working class Americans view you as.

  12. Illegal aliens only bring shame to the LatinX community. We do not wish to be associated with scammers, frauds, cheats and subversives. It's time for these people to get some dignity you go home.

  13. How about you get to stay if you forfeit the right to vote?
    How about you go back to Mexico and help it get it's shit together?
    Somebody broke the law. Where are your parents who broke the law in the first place?
    Most Americans have no control over the problems in Mexico and it's not our fault.
    Your country got a lot of our good jobs and ruined our wages.
    I don't feel sorry for you.

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