Sizing Up Democratic Bench For 2020 Election, President Obama’s Speaking Fee | Morning Joe | MSNBC


>>>PLENTY OF STRATEGY WITH A
ROUGHLY 18 MONTH TIMELINE. IF HE DECIDES ON ANOTHER
PRESIDENTIAL RUN. BEST POSITIONED TO GET IT OFF
THE GROUND. BIDEN WILL BE 77 BY THE TIME OF
THE NEXT IOWA CAUCUS, BIDEN 2020 MIGHT JUST HAPPEN.
HAS A BREAKNECK SCHEDULE THE DAYS TO COME.
APPEARING AT EVENTS WITH NEW YORK GOVERNOR CUOMO AND FLORIDA
AND SALT CONFERENCE WITH OTHER POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC PEOPLE.
HERE’S THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT LAST NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
SPEAKING TO 800 DEMOCRATS. >>I GOT ASKED BY RAY TO COME UP
HERE. WASN’T A DOUBT IN MY MIND.
EVEN THOUGH I NOW IT CAUSES A LOT OF SPECULATION.
I’M NOT RUNNING. >>I CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING
IN MY POWER TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, ELECT
DEMOCRATS AT EVERY LEVEL ACROSS THIS NATION.
I MEANT IT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.
I’M READY TO HELP CANDIDATES CAMPAIGN WHEREVER YOU WANT JUST
LET ME KNOW. BECAUSE IT’S IMPORTANT.
NO, I’M NOT LOOKING FOR APPLAUSE.
IT’S REALLY, REALLY GENERALLY IMPORTANT.
>>THE “NEW YORK TIMES” ALSO REPORTS THE SENATORS BERNIE
SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN. THERE’S A DIVIDE WITH CORY
BOOKER, AND PAMELA HAIRS ON THE YOUNGER END.
PRESIDENT TRUMP FRIDAY FOR THE NRA CONVENTION AND WHILE HE WAS
THERE, HE MADE PREDICTION ABOUT THE ELECTION FOUR YEARS AWAY.
>>I HAVE A FEELING IN THE NEXT ELECTION YOU’RE GOING BE SWAMPED
BY CANDIDATES. >>REMEMBERED THAT.
>>PRESIDENT USING THAT TERMS TO REFER TO SENATOR ELIZABETH
WARREN JOINING US NOW DEPUTY EDITORIAL PAGE COLUMNIST AT “THE
WASHINGTON POST.” GOOD MORNING.
MARK AND JOHN, LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU AS THE GAME CHANGERS.
THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A PARLOR GAME.
YOUNGER PROGRESSIVE. IS IT JOE BIDEN.
WHAT DO YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENCY.
CHANCE OF BEING A DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.
TALK OF RUNNING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP GIVEN HIS CURRENT APPROVAL
RATINGS AND TOP POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT HE FACES NOT A
GUARANTEE BECOME THE PRESIDENT. IT’S A CLEAN AS SHOT AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE HAVING AT THIS POINT. IT IS WIDE OPEN.
I THINK YOU’LL SEE SPECULATION CONTINUE BECAUSE IT’S SO WIDE
OPEN AND THERE’S AN GET IN EARLY.
TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF LEAN AND NARROW DOWN PEOPLE’S
CONSIDERATION. I SUSPECT THIS WILL BE A WILD A
THING WE’LL SEE. STARTED BASICALLY LAST WEEK.
>>JOHN, MIKE, YOU CAN ANSWER THIS TOO.
YOU KNOW BIDEN WELL. IS THIS REAL OR WISTFUL.
>>SOME PART OF IT MAY CAN’T RUN.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE’S ALWAYS ALARM, BIG SPACE BETWEEN BIDEN
AND RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. HE IS NOT IN STEP WITH WHERE THE
PARTY IS RIGHT NOW. AND WHERE IT’S HEADED WHICH IS
FURTHER AND FURTHER TO THE LEFT. MORE AND MORE PROGRESSIVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE’S A GENTLEMAN IN HIS EARLY 70s WHO IS GOING TO
BE IN MIDDLE 70s BY THE TIME WE GET THERE.
ANOTHER ISSUE AFFLICTS THE PERSON WHO WOULD ORDINARILY IF
NOT FOR AGE BE THE FRONT-RUNNER BERNIE SANDERS.
WHO CAME CLOSE TO WINNING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION LAST TIME
AND MOST POPULAR POLITICAL PERSON IN THE COUNTRY.
CONTINUES TO BE THE ONLY PERSON BESIDES DONALD TRUMP TO GO TO
ANY STATE, ANY CITY AND GET FIVE OR TEN,000 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AT
AN EVENT FOR HIM. HE WOULD BE 74, 75.
BY THE TIME HE CAME. KNOW HE’S THINKING ABOUT IT.
IT’S A TALL ORDER FOR SOMEBODY AT THAT ABLE TO RUN FOR
PRESIDENT GIVEN PHYSICAL AND OTHER DEMANDS IT WOULD PUT ON
HIM. >>WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT.
YOU GET BERNIE SANDERS, HE’LL BE 77.
78 OR SO. IN A FEW YEARS.
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, BIDEN WHO HAS A DEEP APPRECIATION OF WHAT
FATE AND LIFE CAN DO TO YOU. WILL BE 77 AND THEY ARE THE TWO
PERHAPS ARGUABLY LEADING CANDIDATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC
SIDE OF BALLOT RIGHT NOW. >>IT’S PRETTY INCREDIBLE STATE
OF AFFAIRS AND THE GRAYING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE
ELECT TORL RANKS AND POSSIBLE PRESIDENTIAL RANKS.
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GIVE PAUSE TO DEMOCRATS.
RUN OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS OF COURSE WHAT HAPPENED DURING
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. FELT WIPING OUT OF THE
DEMOCRATIC BENCH. NOT JUST LOSING THE HOUSE AND
THE SENATE, BUT LOSING SOMETHING LIKE 900 LEGISLATIVE SEATS.
YOU GROW PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FROM THE GROUND UP USUALLY
EXCEPT IF THERE ARE REALITY
TYCOONS. THAT’S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THEIR
PROBLEM NECESSARILY. THIS TIME AROUND, BUT I DO THINK
THAT LOOK, 70 MIGHT BE THE NEW 60 ON MAYBE 80 IS THE NEW 70.
THAT’S AWFULLY OLD FOR A JOB AS DEMANDING AS THE PRESIDENT.
WITH NO DISRESPECT TO THE CURRENT OFFICE HOLDER TO PRETTY
ENERGETIC GUYS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED.
>>LET’S TALK ABOUT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM.
CORY BOOKER, KRISTEN, SETH MOTELEN CAME UP.
THAT SAID. IT IS TOO EARLY.
ALSO, I REALLY DON’T THINK IS GOING TO NECESSARILY BE AN
INCUMBENT POLITICIAN WHO ENDS UP WINNING THE DEMOCRATIC
NOMINATION. I THINK NATIONAL LEVEL POLITICS
IS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED. I THINK NAME RECOGNITION IS SO
IMPORTANT. IN ESPECIALLY GOING UP AGAINST
DONALD TRUMP. AND I THINK THAT WE COULD SEE
SOME REALLY INTERESTING OUTSIDE CONTENDERS SURFACE.
>>YES. YOU EITHER HAVE TO BE FAMOUS OR
GET FAMOUS QUICKLY. ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
YOURSELF, BE ABLE TO RAISE A LOT OF MONEY.
OR DO WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID AND USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND GET ACCESS
TO VOTERS WITHOUT PAID ADVERTISING.
I LOOK AT ALL THESE NAMES AND DON’T SEE THE POTENTIAL TO DO
THAT. >>THERE IS ONE PERSON I KNOW WE
BOTH THINK. DON’T SLEEP OF HARRIS.
FOR REASONS WE TALKED ABOUT. SHE’S NOT FAMOUS, BUT SHE COULD
GET FAMOUS QUICK. AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN FROM
CALIFORNIA WHO COULD RAISE A LOT OF MONEY QUICKLY.
WITH ONE MOMENT COULD BECOME A HUGE SUPER STAR THE PARTY.
SHE HASN’T HAD THAT MOMENT. >>SHE HAS NOT BEEN A MONSTER
FUND RAISER IN CALIFORNIA. >>SHE COULD.
>>SHE’S AT CAPACITY. >>SO RUTH, LET ME ASK YOU,
KAMALA HARRIS OR ANY OF THE CANDIDATES WHO MIGHT BE AT THE
TOP OF THE BALLOT IN THE DEMOCRATS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS,
ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL OR OUGHT THEY TO DEAL OR WILL
THAT BE FORCED TO DEAL WITH THE
PHRASE DEPLORABLES. DID SUCH DAMAGE TO THE BASIC
CORE CONSTITUENCY. HOW WOULD ANY DEMOCRATIC DO
THAT. >>ANY DEMOCRATIC WHO IS RUNNING
IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE OR SHE ADDRESSES THE
QUESTION OF THE ANGRYISH OR ANXIOUS WORKING CLASS VOTER.
WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTER. SIMPLY RELYING ON DEM
DEMOGRAPHICS TO GET THERE IS A DANGEROUS ROUTE.
BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO ANGER AND FRUSTRATION WITH WASHINGTON TO
THE ECONOMIC ANXIETY THAT HELPS TO PROPEL BERNIE SANDERS AND
DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL FOR THE DEMOCRATIC
NOMINEE, WHETHER IT’S BERNIE SANDERS OR SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND YOU CAN’T TREAT PEOPLE WITH DISRESPECT AND THEN ASK FOR
THEIR VOTES. THAT’S LIKE A FACT OF POLITICAL
LIFE. SO WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A
WAY TO ADDRESS THE ANXIETY, DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
TRY TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THE ANXIETY AND TO COME UP WITH
PROGRAMS THAT APPEAL TO THESE VOTERS.
>>RUTH, AS WE TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL NEXT PRESIDENT, YOUR
COLUMN IS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT.
CRITICIZED PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR HITTING THE BIG MONEY SPEAKING
CIRCUIT AFTER REPORTS SAY HE AND THE FORMER FIRST LADY SIGNED A
$60 MILLION JOINT BOOK DEAL. IN COLLECTING $400,000 TO MAKE A
SINGLE SPEECH, BARACK OBAMA FOLLOWING IN THE PAST FOOTSTEPS.
TO ACKNOWLEDGE OBAMA HAS PLENTY OF PRECEDENT ON HIS SIDE IS NOT
TO SAY HIS CHOICE IS WIDE. PROPULSION ON THE CIRCUIT
ARRIVES AT A MOMENT OF DISGUST WITH WALL STREET GREED AND
WASHINGTON SWAMP. COMES AFTER A CAMPAIGN WITH
HILLARY CLINTON’S SPEAKING FEES BECOME A SYMBOL OF ELITISM.
IMAGINE THE POWERFUL MESSAGE OBAMA WOULD HAVE SENT HAD HE
CHOSEN TO RENOUNCE THIS ROAD TO RICHES.
RUTH, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ELIZABETH WARREN HERSELF SAYING
SHE WAS TROUBLED. ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE ATTACKS.
IS HE ENTITLED. HE’S NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE THE
WAY HILLARY CLINTON WAS. IT’S NOT SOMETHING HE HAS TO
THINK ABOUT. IS HE NOT ENTITLED TO GO MAKE
MONEY THE WAY HE PLEASES. >>HE’S TOTALLY ENTITLED AND
LEGALLY TOTALLY ENTITLED TO GO MAKE MONEY AS HE PLEASES AND
HISTORICALLY AS I SAID, THIS IS A WELL TROTTEN PATH.
HE COULD HAVE SENT. HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN TO SEND A
DIFFERENT MESSAGE AND BY THE WAY, IN TERMS OF MAKING MONEY,
HIS BOOK DEALS, REPORTED TO BE BETWEEN $60-65 MILLION.
SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO ME. ENOUGH TO LIVE ON.
GIVE A LOT TO CHARITY. HELP YOUR FOUNDATION.
AND IT — LOOK, THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
EARLIER AND THE ABILITY OF THE DEMOCRATS TO SPEAK TO VOTERS WHO
FEEL LIKE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND WASHINGTON ARE NOT ATTENTIVE
TO THEIR ISSUES. JUST THINK ABOUT THE SIGNAL IT
WOULD HAVE SENT IF THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAD JUST QUIETLY SAID
I’M NOT GOING ON THE LECTURE CIRCUIT.
IT WOULD HAVE — NOT THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD HAVE RENOUNCED
LECTURE CIRCUIT IN THE FUTURE. HE’S GOING TO MAKE MONEY WHEN HE
LEAVES OFFICE AND ALL THE WAYS HE LIKES TO MAKE MONEY.
WOULD HAVE SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
OBAMA DID NOT LEAVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN A GREAT
SHAPE. MAYBE HE COULD HAVE HELPED IT A
LITTLE BIT BY NOT OPENING FRONT OF SURE YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT HIM.
VACUUMING UP CHECKS. IT SOMEWHAT TARNISHES.
I’M NOT SAYING IT’S A LOGICAL OR WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE




Comments
  1. Lol these guys are too old. They still don't understand this new generation. Conventional wisdom no long works, you hacks.

  2. I am done with MSNBC. False liberals. They've always just been an echo chamber for the Theocrats, the gun nuts, the corporate raiders and the Fascists. Laughing at evil statements and false positions has just reinforced those falsehoods of the right.

  3. It's incorrect to say that you can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables, because you can put them all in at this point.

  4. Obama's fee: he's taking that money from the rich guys. I bet he'll not charge much for speaking on uni's. And then, what does he do with this money ? If spent on good stuff, instead of investing in stocks, more power to him. Let wall-street bleed, take the money from them.

  5. The great black hope, a man from whom much was expected but who delivered so much less, turned out to have had FEET OF CLAY. We knew this when he touted Clinton over Bernie for last election. He is now A VERY VERY RICH MAN and so many Americans are very much poorer than they were before, notwithstanding the FLAWED OBAMA CARE. We knew that well when he and the DNC supported Clinton over Bernie Sanders. The latter will turn out to be the best President we never had. Shame on you President Obama. There are positives which we should not forget. He was at least not in favor of sending Americans in harm's way in foreign fields to the extent that the Republicans always are and that saved dollars as well as lives. Let us not forget that. People will vote their own perceived interest but it takes time for the perception to be made clear.

  6. Obama not taking the money wouldn't have made a difference whatsoever with Republicans, and I don't see why he should sacrifice increased financial stability just to appease progressives.  Republicans would still hate him, and they'd still be just as biased as they've always been towards Liberals.  

    The criticism about him leaving the party in a bad state is ridiculous.  It's basically placing the blame at the feet of the wrong person.  You only have to look at the DNC to realize what's wrong with the party itself.

  7. This paternalism over a former POTUS and the money he earns speaks volumes over this out of touch old biddie when not discussing-at all- the current POTUS hands in the treasury coffers. 🙈 Gilibrand….😵 talk about out of touch

  8. I don't criticize Obama for taking speech money. And guess what? The Obamas donated $2 million to South Side Summer Jobs in Chicago. http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/barack-michelle-obama-south-side/index.html

  9. I don't get people's issues with obama getting paid for a speech like all past presidents. Hypocrites.

  10. You guys were going to get that upvote until you got to that Obama part. He served his 2 terms he should be able to get paid like everyone before him

  11. Are these turkey's even listening. Money raised is not an issue if you have the policy. The Democrats lost last time because there was no policy.

  12. This man is not he president anymore. He served the American people without fraud or financial conflict. He wasn't disrespectful or lack compassion for the American people. Yet we let this new guy come and cause havoc in just 100 days with lie after lie, personal financial conflicts, disrespecting certain groups of American people. Displaying lack of knowledge on major issues and having a lack of empathy for those certain groups of American people. I'm just saying.

  13. These people on the panel don't get it. They talk about which candidate can tap into deep wallets come fund raising time. They don't understand that in this populist time in America we want the candidate that DOESN'T take money from the deep wallets. Bernie raised more money than Hillary for many months and he did it $27 at a time from people like you and I. He proved that if you work for us and give us a message we like then we'll make sure you can compete without owing your soul, and vote, to corporations and elites.

  14. Shouldn't a conversation about future presidential candidates include more about what these people stand for?

  15. Why does he have to be the first president to not be able to go out and make money. I don't understand this as long as he wasn't taking bribes in the White House then shut up at the end of the day it doesn't matter. At the end of the day Barack Obama is a private citizen he can go out and make money the way that he sees fit as long as it is not breaking any laws.

  16. Who could stand to hear this finger shaking dimwit speak? After 8 years of this clown we are all fed up!

  17. Who seriously wants to listen to stuttering former President. I like the guy he gave it his best shot. We gave him 8 years now back off.

  18. Here's a winner of an idea for you fringe-party Democrats: listen to your corporate media masters, and pay close attention to those polls! And while you're at it, keep denying that you're not a bunch of America-hating, violence-prone control freaks who've become the political equivalent of a fart in the room.

  19. SHUT UP! Bernie will be 78 in 2020. He is in robust good health. Many people are in vibrant good physical, mental and emotional health well into their 90s! Check the baseless ageism at the door. The only candidate seen running through airports and train stations during the primaries. He is the People's overwhelming choice for critical, worthy reasons. Joe Biden has been a fine, dedicated Senator and VP. Kamala does not have enough experience to run for POTUS in 2020, still, she is invaluable in
    Congress. Tulsi Gabbard, Sherrod Brown would be excellent VP's, Cabinet Members.

  20. Democrats are the lowest form of life, nothing is beneath a democrat, they have no answers for anything but FAKE NEWS RUSSIA

  21. If the dems want Bernie, make him speaker in 2018 (if they win), impeach Trump and Pence, and make Bernie President.

  22. Really doesn't matter who runs, Trump will likely win again, he'll get his base all fired up once more. One thing you could do is lower the age at which you can vote. If you're going to vote like 5 year olds, you may aswell let 5 year olds vote. Who knows, maybe is what's needed to turn the tide is school children.

  23. God i hope the dems would allow Biden/Sanders ticket…Let these two elder statesmen run.Give them a chance.Booker,warren,Gillibrand,
    Kamala Harris are still young and could wait.

  24. The only Democrat who would even give Trump a reason to take him seriously is the one you're not even talking about. Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia and if the economy keeps getting better at it's current pace, it's a losing battle. Love Trump or hate him, his support is strong, loyal, deep and growing. No matter what gets thrown at the guy, he just finds ways to benefit from it and gain supporters.

  25. Bernie beats them all He is the front runner. He is the most favored Senator.
    https://qz.com/1168101/predictit-bernie-sanders-is-most-likely-democrat-to-challenge-trump-in-2020/

  26. “She’s both African American, a woman … “. They’ve really learnt nothing, same old identity politics. Trump second term I think.

  27. Democrats, lets make the 2020 election entertaining, forget about Hillary, Nancy Palosi, Joe Biden and Run former NY Congressman Anthony Weiner. It will be more fun than the 4th of July.

  28. Some of the California gubernatorial candidates for 2018 are already trying to use California as a jumping board for the Presidency. However, I think California needs a full time governor, not somebody who flies out to Iowa the day after inauguration day.

  29. Don’t run again Bernie you will not win the south or the black vote across the country. Then your supporters will be in their feelings again like in 2016

  30. I think the candidate should be subject to answering questions on their knowledge of the law of the land, our Constitution. They are all sworn in to uphold the constitution but our country wouldn't be in the state it is if they knew what their responsibilities are. Bernie Sanders is the only one who talks the talk and walks the walk.

  31. Biden is a class act. Sadly he is a democrat, and though im republican I still am able to think outside the box. Watch him as the adjudicator of the electoral college. this guy has class and integrity, so he may be more republican than my be apparent.

  32. Barack Obama made 60 million from a book deal so there was really no need to take money from Wall street firm ..I am really impressed with this WP reporter…I have to agree that while the book deal may seem logical even though exorbitant …by any standards 400000 for a single speech just does not add up …why would the firm pay him that money ?

  33. Democrats are dead, the Kenyan Obama killed it. Biden not Presidential material, come to think of it none of the Democrats are.

  34. lol dems wont let their most popular person run…i actually feel sorry 4 bernie, denied his chance by corrupt criminals who thought it "was her turn"……dems will go backwards in 2020……

  35. Former Democrat here and voted Obama in his first term. I didn't vote last election but I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST DEMS moving forward. You guys are nuts and make Republicans look normal.

  36. There is no Bench to draw from…. The party has been destroyed by 8 yrs. of stagnant 2% GDP , Corruption…Scandals….Typical Democrat shenanigans…. You better look toward 2024 instead and enjoy the glorious ride for now of prosperity……

  37. Absolutely NO democrap will be elected or cheat (the more likely way) their way into the WH. I guarantee it.
    Because if it is stolen like it was in 2012 by Obonobo ("We have al qaida on the run"), it will be CW2. And the Leftist morons will lose.

  38. really 2020 i knew it was just a matter of time but just stop. they shouldnt be allowed to talk about it until 6 months out.no fund raising no debate planning etc.

  39. An 81 YEAR OLD President in the form of Biden?…I would vote for him if he would get in the ring with Donald Trump in a no hold barred grudge match…loser leave the USA…

  40. had been a democrat since the seventies however in the nineties due to WJ Clinton i began to look to anyone but a democrat .todays list of potential Dem candidates does not give me any reason to return to the Democrats . Social policies and their practice of identity politics are my main disappointments .Their support of Antifa , the unprofessional benavior by all democrats during the Kavanaugh hearings indicate the hair on fire policies they still pursue in the wake of Clinton defeat . Kamala Harris will have great problems in
    explaining her long time illicit affair with Willie Brown . She’s hopefully not the Democratic choice .

  41. DON'T YOU FORGET, HUSSEIN WAS STUMPING FOR BILLERY AND HE SOUNDED LIKE A TRIPLE NEUTERED MICKEY MOUSE! LOL!

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