Premium gas vs. regular: What’s really better for your car? (CBC Marketplace)


♪ [theme]>>Tom Harrington:This week onmarketplace… [gas pump bell]getting hosed at the pumps.>>Who do we trust?>>Tom:Are we being misledinto spending millionswe don’t have to?>>Which gas is better for my car?>>Supreme.>>Tom:Wasting money on gasmost of our cars don’t need.Oil companies are misleading drivers?>>Absolutely!>>Tom:We put Premium gasto the test, and you won’tbelieve what we find.>>It’s actually hurting the environment!>>Why are they selling people a kind of gas that they don’t need? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪>>Tom:We’re cruisingalong the back roadsof Southwestern Ontario.It’s themarketplacegas challenge.Premium versus Regular.Which one will come out on top?Stay tuned for the lowdownon high octane.♪ ♪No matter what youput in your tank,the price across the countryis high, too.And for Premium, well,you pay a premium.As much as 15 cents moreper litre than Regular.We’re at a gas stationin Toronto’s East End.How are you doing? Can I ask you a couple of questions?Gauging your gas-buying habits.What do you know about Premium gas?>>I think it’s better for your motor?>>It’s supposed to make it run better, right?>>It burns cleaner.>>It’s supposed to be better for your car in terms of, I don’t know, some additives or something that they put into it. [♪]>>Tom:Ads like this seemto drive that home.[♪]>>Announcer:Shell V-Power.Our most advanced fuel ever.>>Tom:Making the pitch thatPremium’s better for your car.>>Announcer:Nitrogen-enrichedfor optimum performance,maximum protection.>>Tom:Now, it’s true thatsome car-makers recommendputting Premium fuelin their high-end models,but what about most of uswho drive regular cars?Do you ever buy Premium gas?>>Sometimes.>>In my other car, I did.>>Once in a while, I do like to because they say it’s better for the car. You know?>>Tom: Who says?>>Uh, I don’t know! I guess just other people that have worked at the gas stations and stuff have told me over the years.>>It’s better quality, I think. This is what they say.>>Tom: Did it require Premium?>>No, but I mean, it’s supposed to be better for the car, right?>>It’s a treat. If I’ve got extra money, I think, okay, I’ll put the Premium in today. [chanting]>>Tom:Treating body and mindwith care is at the centreof Karuna Brandy’s life.>>Sending the breath into the joints.>>Tom:She teaches yoga out ofher home in East-End Toronto.>>So, we’re actually increasing the lubrication here.>>Tom:A believer in theholistic approach, even whenit comes to buying gas.>>I’m so not the right person to ask.>>Tom:As we learn when wefirst meet her at the pumps,putting higher octanegas into her Honda Civic.So, why?>>Because I get better gas mileage with my car.>>Tom: On the higher–?>>On the higher octane.>>Tom: Well, what have you heard about Premium gas?>>I’m a yogi eco-person. So, in my mind– I don’t know if it’s true or not, but in my mind, I believe it’s true that if I buy the higher-grade gas, it burns cleaner. [♪]>>Tom:Is she right?We want to find out ifPremium gas really does allthose wonderful things.So, we’re doing three testswith a regular car.Does it run better, go farther,burn cleaner with Premium?The choice for our firstexperiment is Shell’sPremium V-Power.We’re using this 2013Chevrolet Cruze,one of the best-sellingpassenger cars in Canada.And our lab, if you like,is the Canadian Automotiveand Trucking Institutein Cambridge, Ontario.Marty Stanfel is runningour test.He’s been an instructor herefor more than 20 years.How’d I do?>>That’s great.>>Tom: Okay, thanks. Hey, Marty, Tom Harrington.>>Hi, Tom, how are you?>>Tom: Thanks for helping us out today.>>You’re more than welcome.>>Tom: Okay. Let’s see, we’re testing Premium versus Regular gas?>>That’s right.>>What will this machine do?>>What this machine is going to do, is we’re going to measure the performance of the car by measuring the horsepower and the torque and see if there’s any difference between Regular fuel and Premium fuel.>>Tom: So, what do you need me to do?>>I’m going to strap down the car and then I need you to do 50 kilometres an hour.>>Tom: Okay.>>And put on the cruise control, and we’ll get some numbers here.>>Tom: Great. Let’s do that. [♪] >>Tom:Our first testis looking at performance.Does the engine run betteron Premium?We start by running theChevy Cruze on Regular gas.What is this telling us about how the engine’s performing on Regular gas?>>What it’s telling us right now is that this is taking this amount of horsepower to make these wheels turn, and using up that much fuel.>>Tom:We have our readingwith the Regular.Time to switch over nowto the Premium fuel.Okay, I was going to say fill ‘er up, but I think you have to empty it.>>Good point.>>Tom: I’ve never done that before.So, we drain the Regular gas.And put in theShell V-Power Premium.We have Premium gas in the car now, so do you expect any of those numbers to change?>>I’m thinking this number here is going to drop. I’m not too sure about this number, but I’m thinking this number here is going to come in at a lower number.>>Tom: And if it’s a lower number, that means what?>>That means that the engine is running more proficiently and doesn’t need as much power to make it run the same speed.>>Tom: Okay.>>Because of the high test fuel. [car accelerating]>>Tom: So, what are we seeing?>>We’re seeing the same numbers as before. That’s very interesting.>>Tom: What do you make of it? Shouldn’t the Premium be lower number?>>You would think.>>Tom: What does that tell you?>>I think what’s happening here with the Premium fuel running through here, the computer of the car is compensating for that. And it’s going to give you the same numbers because that’s what that engine was designed to do. So, proficiency and efficiency of the car, by putting in Premium or its desired Regular octane, it’s negligible, you won’t see a difference.>>Tom:That’s right.Our test shows our regular cardoes not run better on Premium.[♪]Car talk has beenMark Whinton’s secondlanguage since he was a boy.Today, he’s an automotiveteacher and writes a blogon the car industry.Mark’s also an expertwitness on car cases inOntario Superior Court.What’s your recommendation to people about what gas to use?>>Regular. Always.>>Tom: One of the things about Premium is that it makes your engine perform better. True or false?>>No. That’s false.>>Tom: How many would even notice the difference between the two?>>Nobody. I mean, you could blindfold me, I couldn’t tell the difference. [laughs]>>Tom:We ask Mark to puthis mileage where his mouth is.He gets the keys to the ChevyCruze for our second test.We want to see if our car getsbetter mileage on Premium.This time, we’re usingEsso Supreme.>>Set trip to zero. Resetting gas… and off we go. I expect the result to be very, very close; within a half a litre per 100 kilometres. And stop. Five litres. Full stop. 4.8 litres.>>Tell me about the results, based on what you’re seeing?>>I don’t see any difference at all. Any variance you would get would be due to just the testing variance, just between the equipment itself, its tolerances, the car itself, its tolerances. That’s it. You’re not seeing any real-world difference.>>Tom: Is there any benefit at all to putting Premium in a regular car?>>No, none whatsoever. I don’t know how to put it any plainer than that. [laughs]>>Tom:And Mark doesn’tjust talk the talk.He drives the drive.Remember that muscle carhe likes to take for a spinon a nice day?Well, GM may recommendPremium, but Mark putsRegular in the tank.>>If I was going to go to, say, a racetrack or something, definitely I would put Premium in the car. But just driving around to and fro? Don’t need it, not required.>>Tom: They talk about the idea the engine knocks if you’re not putting in the right kind of gas. Have you ever noticed anything like that with your ‘vette?>>No. Modern cars have a lot of engine management technology that tunes the car while you drive. So, if you put in a Regular grade fuel and the engine does knock, before you hear it, the engine will change the timing and get rid of the knock.>>Tom: How much money have you saved, do you think?>>Oh, about 10 bucks a fill-up.>>Tom:Mark isn’ta lone wolf on this.None other than the U.S.government agrees with him.The Federal Trade Commission,the FTC, says using a higheroctane gas than your owner’smanual recommends, “won’t makeyour car perform better,go faster, get better mileage,or run cleaner.”And, “Unless your engineis knocking…is a waste of money.”Back at the gas station,how will car owners react?>>Oh, really? I’d be surprised, but not.>>So it shouldn’t be 15 cents more a litre, right?>>It’s a scam. [laughs] That they’re getting us with the thinking that it’s better for our cars and really it’s not.>>Tom: Do you think gas stations, oil companies, are misleading drivers about Premium gas?>>I think so. Oh, yeah, absolutely!>>Tom:In the U.S., the FTCsays the same thing.It’s gone after some companiesfor misleading advertising.Esso’s parent company, Exxon,agreed to run new commercialsafter giving driversin the U.S. the wrongimpression about Premium.So, what’s the salespitch here?We’re taking our hidden camerasto gas stations across Canada,and find out there’sa premium on accuracy.>>This one is 87 per cent clean. This is 89 per cent clean. This is 91 per cent clean. [♪] ♪ [theme]>>Tom:We’re pulling up to thepumps and putting claims aboutPremium gas to the test.The American governmentand many experts are warningdrivers not to wastetheir money on Premium.So, we take our hidden camerasto gas stations in Halifax,Toronto, and Vancouver.Will they make the pitchfor Premium in a regular car?>>What would you recommend? Should I get the Premium or the Regular?>>Tom:Some seem to givethe correct advice.>>I think so, Regular.>>In this?>>Yeah?>>You don’t need it.>>Tom:But others sayPremium is king.>>Should I get Regular or Premium?>>Premium, sir.>>Premium’s better?>>This car need a Premium, yeah.>>Which gas is better for my car?>>That is the… Supreme.>>Tom:And one of the reasonsthey’re telling us to gowith Premium over Regular?>>You’re going to notice more gas mileage.>>You will know the difference by your mileage.>>You can get more mileage out of this gas.>>Tom:Better mileage,in a car that doesn’t need it,and a claim experts sayis simply not true.The oil companiespump up another claimabout Premium gas.>>It keeps the engine clean so you don’t have to buy all those cleaners.>>If you want to be a little on the safer side, take 89.>>What will that do, though?>>It’s a little more cleaner. This one is 87 per cent clean. This is 89 per cent clean. This is 91 per cent clean.>>Tom:Clean can meanall kinds of things.>>Announcer:Essoscientists have engineeredgasoline on the molecular levelto help clean up intake valvesand help deliverbetter fuel economy.>>Tom:But to the oilcompanies, clean is allabout the detergentsthey put in their gas.>>With 20 per cent more cleaning agents than before…>>Tom:And they sell itlike other people selllaundry soap.>>[whispers] No other gasoline protects your engine better.>>Tom:Petro Canada goesso far as to callits gas “RegularClean”and “SuperClean”.Our expert, Mark Whinton,says, time to come cleanon this one.>>I’ve noticed that they’re making everybody think their engines are dirty and they need to be cleaned, and that if you clean them, you’ll get better performance and things. You know, engine’s today stay pretty clean. I mean, it’s a bit of a fallacy to think, oh, we have, you know, hundreds of thousands of engines running around, they’re all gunked up that need cleaning! It’s simply not the case. And all the other gases, their regular gases, have detergents as well, as mandated by law.>>Tom:The FTC agreeson that one, too,“high octane gasolinedoes not outperform Regularoctane in preventing enginedeposits from forming,in removing them, or incleaning your car’s engine.In fact, the U.S.Environmental ProtectionAgency requires that alloctane grades of all brandsof gasoline contain enginecleaning detergent additives.”We have the same rulesfor Canadian gas.There’s another Premium promisethat you hearfrom the oil companies;that Premium gas is kinder andgentler for the environment.>>This is the heal-all, so it heals on all levels. Hi, baby.>>Tom:Remember our yogainstructor?Karuna Brandyelieves in tending toand protecting the Earth.So, even though Hondarecommends Regular, Karunaputs in Premium gas becauseshe believes it causesless pollution.Time to clear the air.♪ ♪Our third and final testis on emissions.We’re back at the CanadianAutomotive and TruckingInstitute, where Marty Stanfelgets a readingwith Regular gas.>>You’ll notice here we’re only having six parts per million of hydrocarbons, that’s a very clean car.>>The overall tells us what?>>This tells us that this is a very clean-running gas, with a clean-running car. >>Tom:Now, out withthe Regular and inwith Shell V-Power Premium. Any difference to be expected?>>Again, I’m hoping to see lower numbers here now because the Premium fuel is supposed to be a cleaner-burning fuel.>>Tom:I step on the gas.And what do the readingssay this time?>>The hydrocarbons are up a little, which means there’s unburned fuel coming out of the tailpipe because we’re compensating, and the Premium fuel’s not getting used up like it should in a Premium-fuelled car. So, therefore, it’s actually hurting the environment. Whether or not you’re cleaning your valves and cleaning the inside of the engine, I couldn’t say that’s true. But I think you are hurting more of the environment now by running the Premium fuel in a Regular-fuelled car.>>Tom:We show the testresults to Karuna.So, what do you think of that?>>I’m speechless. Why I think I’m doing this is because of the opposite of that, thinking that I’m being cleaner as a driver. And then I have a question, because why are the oil companies making these different grades of gas, and is it an education for us, as consumers? And who do we trust?>>Tom:Time to find out.♪ ♪We’re taking our test carto each of the big threegas stations.Will they tell usto put in Premium?>>What would you recommend we put in?>>Tom:And we askthe companies, why so muchfiction at the pump?>>Companies are not putting these millions of dollars into research just for the fun of it. It is actually–>>Tom: Well, they’re trying to make money. ♪ ♪ ♪ [theme]>>Tom:Ourmarketplacegaschallenge shows when we putPremium gas into ourChevy Cruze, it does notperform better, does not getbetter mileage, and does notreduce emissions.In fact, it creates more.So, we decide to take our testcar to each of the threebig gas station chainsto see if they’ll recommendPremium or Regular.First up, Shell…>>Hi, how are you?>>Hi, there. What would you recommend we put in?>>Regular.>>Regular?>>Yeah!>>This attendant givesus the correct advice…And when we ask aboutthe Premium V-Power?>>No, no. This car don’t need V-Power.>>Oh, okay.>>This is GM car. It’s Regular.>>Tom:Up next,it’s Esso’s turn…>>Which would you recommend, Premium or Regular?>>For this car? You can put the Medium.>>So, it’s worth it, the extra money?>>For me, I recommend you put Supreme.>>What would it do?>>That’s, like, you can drive like more mileage on there. It’s going to clean all the injections and everything. Supreme is good.>>Tom:So, in goes the moreexpensive Supreme, into a carthat doesn’t needit.Finally, we take ourtest car to Petro Canada…>>What would you recommend we put in? What kind of gas?>>Ultra 94.>>But it costs so much more. How come?>>Yeah, I know, because it’s the best.>>Tom:We ask Petro Canada,Esso, and Shellfor on-camera interviews.They decline our offer.We bring our testcar to Montrealto meet the man who representsthe oil companies.Mr. Montreuil?>>Yes.>>Tom Harrington frommarketplace.>>Very pleased to meet you.>>Tom:Carol Montreuilis Vice-President of TheCanadian Fuels Association.Want to start with a simple question.>>Yes?>>Should people put Premium gas in a Regular car?>>Well, it’s a very good question. One has to look at the driver’s manual. It’s very clearly spelled out if you need or not, a Premium, a Premium fuel.>>Do the companies that you represent, like Shell, Petro Canada, Esso, Husky, do they tell people to put Premium in their cars?>>Absolutely not. Absolutely not!>>Tom: We took this Chevy Cruze to three different gas station chains. And we basically asked that question.I show him video of our test.>>But it costs so much more.How come?>>Yeah, I know,because it’s the best.>>Tom: What did you make of it?>>Well, I mean, it stresses the importance as a driver to make your homework and understand what your car needs. The first attendant offered Regular.>>But why are they selling people a kind of gas that they don’t need?>>Well, again, I mean, when you say it doesn’t need it, the basic requirement for the car is indeed to put Regular gasoline. Companies spend millions of dollars in research to find the best additive, what we call detergents, we put in gasoline, to keep cars running cleaner. If you do try these higher Premium gasolines and you feel that your car is performing better, you might choose to stay with that Premium gasoline.>>Tom: In a regular car that doesn’t–>>Even in a regular car. Absolutely.>>We took this car for a test. It did not perform any better. It did not burn cleaner. It did not get better mileage, putting Premium gas in that car. So, how do you explain that?>>Well, it’s a matter of time, as well. In terms of an engine becoming dirty with deposits in cylinders or in valve, it will not be a matter of days or weeks. This would be over a long period of many months or many years that you will, as a user, decide if this new Premium gasoline you’re putting in your car is indeed giving you a better performance.>>Tom: But I’m surprised to hear you suggest that running Premium gas in a regular car that doesn’t need it will enhance its performance because there are experts around the world, there’s tons of research out there that says the opposite.>>Well, the problem is that, again, you cannot look at it only from an octane point of view, but more with respect to the additive, which are detergents. Now–>>Tom: But every gasoline has detergents in it. Putting more in only means there’s more detergent.>>Yeah, but then, then it’s up to you as a user. You know, like companies are not putting these millions of dollars into research to find this best new additive to put in the Premium formula of gasoline just to… for the fun of it. It is actually–>>Tom: Well, they’re trying to make money.>>Yeah, I mean it is because, obviously it’s not the same formula. What this research on our side is telling us, is that it will keep your engine cleaner with these higher formulation of high-value additives.>>Tom:Seems much of thatresearch is hard to find.We do come across a coupleof Petro-Canada studies,claiming its Premium gascleans your engine betterthan Regular.But neither study measures“SuperClean” againstPetro-Canada’s own Regular gas,which alreadyhas extra detergents.In fact, one study compares“SuperClean” to a gas withno detergents at all.No wonder their “SuperClean”comes out on top.♪ ♪ How can we make a decision when the information is ostensibly skewed because it fits their agenda?>>Yeah, like, I’m not privy to this research, I haven’t looked at the research, I haven’t looked at the details of the numbers that have come out of the research. But I think, at the end of the day, it’s not the research that should decide, its the consumer with the performance they’re getting with their car. Again, no one is forcing anyone to buy this Premium gasoline.>>Tom: But if they’re being misled into thinking it’s doing things it can’t do, then, yeah, they are!>>Yeah, well, then you have to try it.>>Tom:Been there, done that,says Karuna Brandy.>>Now, I’m driving my car knowing it has Premium gas in it, wondering if my emissions are higher than if I was driving my car with Regular gas.>>Tom:After our test results,she’s seen the light.>>Could you fill it with Regular please?>>Sure.>>Tom:One driver makingpeace with the world.>>So, now I have this, like, awakened consciousness about what kind of gas to buy. Thank you, Tino!>>No problem.>>Tom:So, the next time youvisit the Premium pump,you might ask yourself,are you doing your cara favour, or the oil companies?♪ ♪




Comments
  1. i was told premium is better
    by who?
    i don't know…..

    breaking news : gas company's are robbing you against your will because you decided not to read your owners manual. expert mark conveniently leaves out that his owners manual states he can use 87 fuel but to expect reduced performance, instead suggests companies are stealing from you.

  2. I use a great car maintenance program www.lonewolf-software.com/automotivewolf.htm on my computer to monitor and manage the maintenance schedules on both my vehicles (Prius & RX-7 turbo). This software also tracks the Fuel economy so I tested Premium and regular gas in both vehicles over 2 Fill-ups. I saw no real difference in performance or gas mileage in either vehicle with the Premium fuel. The Prius went from 52.0 to 51.8 MPG and the RX-7 from 18.1 to 18.2 MPG. In my opinion it's not worth the extra cost of the premium gas.

  3. I feel you are miss leading you us youtested onecar performance that was designed to burn reg gas and the told a lady that with diff car diff engine she was wasting money most Honda or design to burn 91oct you should of ran same test with her car I drive a 2018 tundra and I tell when my wife put in reg or super by the throttle response That why the man with vett will put super in him car if he racing every car

  4. A good fuel test linked below, "Fifth gear". Watch at 5:13, or just watch the hole thing. Basically, only if you have a powerful car that can exploit the additives/knock sensor timing; then some premium fuel will give higher output. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTaBngvsPrc. (Carbon build up is unheard of in North Europe, maybe other additives here)

  5. My '12 Dodge Avenger Plus (edit: 3.6 Pentastar with about 280hp 6 spd. auto.) got 33 mpg on "flex-fuel" (ethanol [extra alcohol] makes about 108 octane but only use in engines designed for it such as the Avenger). Averaged about 27 on premium (91) and 30 on regular (87).
    My 3.8 Genesis coupe (about 350hp 8 spd auto.) 27 hwy on regular…but 31+ on premium so it depends on the car. (All gas was Valero).

  6. You nay-sayers need to rewatch the video. The FTC actually agreed with the assessment here. Unless it's a really high performance vehicle (and most who think they have one, don't) Premium gas is a waste of money. Warnings were given to the companies trying to PUSH the narrative to change their advertising. Gas mileage does NOT increase and there is no such thing as a gunked up engine that doesn't run clean unless you're using something OTHER than gasoline. It's mandated by law that these companies use a certain amount of detergents to keep engines running as efficiently as possible. Sheesh guys… Do some research!!

  7. It may be just me but if I get the lowest price (regular) gas I seem to hear more ticks in my motor. If I get plus or premium my engine seems to run quieter plus it seems to get better gas mileage. Like I said, it might just be a psychological thing. I have noticed that there's practically no difference between cheaper gas treatment & octane boost. I stood in the store holding one of each side by side & there is practically the same ingredients in both.

  8. In My Jeep Manual Hand Book that comes with the Jeep was in the glovebox in a very nice case it says to use Regular Gas for best performance. But who would want to read a book about something you spend a lot of money on. If the automobile didn't come with one ask the seller for one, I would say I can't buy from you without the Manual that tells everything you need to know about your purchase and how to keep it as new as possible ( You want an original Manual from the maker of the automobile, they all come with one ) not a replacement from the auto store it can miss important info that may only be in the Original Manual.

  9. Take the alcohol out of the gas and make it the regular way 87 octane is the way to go it may be higher but in the long haul it's better for your engine

  10. is 91 stand for 91 octane? In Australia the premium is 98 Octane and if i use 91 octane fuel my car start screaming at me.

  11. @5:20 ,,, What the hell… Less fuel for the same power is the false hope if anything…

    But they are correct, less hp will never create more work.

  12. thank you for showing this research I appreciate it much you're saving a lot of money for a lot of people I love your show God bless.

  13. I would prefer ethanol free if possible ethanol leaves a gummy destructive deposit like a broken down fructose "syruppy"deposit.

  14. They're all 95 octane afaik here in Europe. Least that's what I see on every pump I use, with no other choices.

  15. Where in the heck is the manual that tells which gas to use located in our cars??
    I've been looking for that book for ages lol

  16. It's simple: These higher grades are for cars who need it. There are quite a few cars out there who need it. Of course the oil companies use some form of marketing to upsell their higher grade fuels, otherwise it would be too expensive to have multiple grades of fuel at every pump station. If you would like to make premium gas have an impact on your regular car, get a OBD tune for it.

  17. A common misconception is that premium is more "powerful" gas than regular. Octane is simply a measure of a fuel's resistance to preignition. In higher performing engines running at higher compression, there is a risk of preignition and knock with lower octane fuel which is detrimental to your engine's performance. For the vast majority of cars, of course there is no benefit to premium because they aren't running in a manner that requires it and there is no magical boost in power from 91 octane.
    From personal experience driving both a Vovlo S40 T5 and a Subaru WRX, both with turbocharged and high compression engines, they do not like regular gas at all. It has a noticeable and detrimental effect on performance and fuel economy. The owners manuals both specify that 91 minimum is required. The STI model of the WRX actually asks for 93+ octane where available and 91 will do worst-case scenario.

  18. Premium is better for your car my car never needed fuel pumps injectors and it burns slower 87 goes out fast

  19. I've tried running all tests of gas in my car and found it runs ok on mid grade spits and sputters with low test and high test it runs great, best advise here is run a tank or two of each grade of fuel in your car and see for yourself which is better for you, the tests ran here is totally and only a result for that car and that car only. You can take two identical cars and get a noticeable difference between the cars every time!

  20. I’ve owned a 2016 accord 4 cylinder since brand new and since brand new it always had a very slight stumble sitting at idle, after switching to premium it took about 3 tank fulls and the stumble completely went away and hasn’t been back since using premium

  21. My stepfather used to add a quart of oil to the gas tank especially when we went out of town now I don't know if it's because at that time Vehicles burned regular gas and you could do that but never bother his vehicle

  22. Okay I understand that this is for the simply car and driver that has a normal car. However if your owners manual suggests premium just use premium. I’ll use my car for example in my owners manual it suggest 91 because it performs better it makes the full amount of horsepower as it’s rated. I could use middle grade but it would make less horsepower. It all depends on your vehicle. Not all engines run the same, they perform and act different on 91 or 87. Most cars runs fine on 87. But for more performance or higher compression vehicles use what is recommended. Cars that require 91 will knock more, have a shorter life, and perform worse on 87. But hey who am I right. You won’t listen to a random comment from a random person. So do what you want.

  23. Okay I understand that this is for the simply car and driver that has a normal car. However if your owners manual suggests premium just use premium. I’ll use my car for example in my owners manual it suggest 91 because it performs better it makes the full amount of horsepower as it’s rated. I could use middle grade but it would make less horsepower. It all depends on your vehicle. Not all engines run the same, they perform and act different on 91 or 87. Most cars runs fine on 87. But for more performance or higher compression vehicles use what is recommended. Cars that require 91 will knock more, have a shorter life, and perform worse on 87. But hey who am I right. You won’t listen to a random comment from a random person. So do what you want.

  24. Okay I understand that this is for the simply car and driver that has a normal car. However if your owners manual suggests premium just use premium. I’ll use my car for example in my owners manual it suggest 91 because it performs better it makes the full amount of horsepower as it’s rated. I could use middle grade but it would make less horsepower. It all depends on your vehicle. Not all engines run the same, they perform and act different on 91 or 87. Most cars runs fine on 87. But for more performance or higher compression vehicles use what is recommended. Cars that require 91 will knock more, have a shorter life, and perform worse on 87. But hey who am I right. You won’t listen to a random comment from a random person. So do what you want.

  25. Okay I understand that this is for the simply car and driver that has a normal car. However if your owners manual suggests premium just use premium. I’ll use my car for example in my owners manual it suggest 91 because it performs better it makes the full amount of horsepower as it’s rated. I could use middle grade but it would make less horsepower. It all depends on your vehicle. Not all engines run the same, they perform and act different on 91 or 87. Most cars runs fine on 87. But for more performance or higher compression vehicles use what is recommended. Cars that require 91 will knock more, have a shorter life, and perform worse on 87. But hey who am I right. You won’t listen to a random comment from a random person. So do what you want.

  26. Anyone with a 2011 Nissan Murano ever try Premium Fuel? And does that actually make a difference?? 🤨🤨 pls help!! Ty in advance

  27. If the fuel has ETHANOL added to it, it is fine in your car. BUT, it will ROT (over time) the hoses and rubber fittings in your small engines (weed eater, lawn mower, boat motor, dirt bike, snowmobile, etc) and will also varnish up your carburetor in those same small engines because they sit for extended periods and the actual gasoline in the fuel system evaporates leaving the ethanol behind to bung up the carb….I know Sunoco Premium has NO ethanol and is what you should use in your small engines…..In your car, run whatever…Pay more attention to your regular oil changes and tire pressure and air filter.

  28. Bottom line is every vehicle has an owners manual and that owners manual will tell you what the recommended fuel grade needs to be used in your vehicle. In my older vehicles it would make a difference on what fuel grade you ran and I would hear a knock from the valve train if I used to low of a fuel grade. My 2018 Ram 2500 and all other newer vehicles will compensate for the fuel you run in them. I drive 100 miles a day for work and I have tried all three fuel grades in my area and there was no difference in my gas mileage or fuel burn. READ YOUR OWNWRS MANUAL AND RUN THE RECOMMENDED FUEL IT CALLS FOR.

  29. What motor in the car? Either way, the Turbo cruze is also tuned for 87 octane. Use what your manual says to use. If you have a high compression engine, and it says 91-94, use it. The higher the number the MORE resistant to combustion it is, and in high compression motors it prevents pre-ignition/knocking. So do what the manual says.

  30. I don't believe the average gas station worker is trying to mislead anybody. It's a top down misleading myth. The people that are scamming are doing it by simply not informing people of the differences. Corporations are making billions of dollars by labeling things as premium by labeling things such as premium, or organic etc. 8 out of 10 times this is the case according to the American Bar Association center for consumer awareness

  31. Gas was avg. of 3.60 gal. in 2012 not $1.37! What kinda sham ya got goin on here huh JACK?🤛💨🇺🇸

  32. its a shame they didn't just explain what octane ratings mean and how some cars require it based on the compression ratio… instead this was a bunch of balogna

  33. Newer engines have the ability to take advantage of higher compression ratios with higher octane gas. My Chevy Volt gets higher mpg on premium, and even better without methanol, as tested on road trips. The mpg improvement is about enough to cover the price difference. The car will run on regular, but only by retarding the timing using anti-knock sensors. Aside from not mentioning that, your dyno power test is completely bogus. Think about it. Maintaining a set speed at a set load condition with the same car will take the same amount of power and torque, regardless of the fuel. You didn't bother to monitor the fuel flow even though it's in the same CAS/ODBII data stream, probably because it didn't fit with your hypothesis. Any true expert would have pointed that out, but you ran with the junk science anyway. It's about the same as asking the guy who pumps gas to evaluate octane efficiency for your car, then taking that as the official company line. Please redo the segment with a credible analysis.

  34. I guess these people don't believe in hooking up a live monitor to the computer to see the knock sensors but they also forgot to mention about advance and retard timing when you use a lower grade fuel your engine have a tendency to retard the timing and if you use a higher grade fuel it will advance but who am I I'm not a blogger I'm just a car person and a mechanic who knows how to use a Dino🤷🏾‍♂️

  35. Lmfaoo wait the best gas at these pomp is 91 octane, meanwhile in western Europe the BASE stuff is 95, then we got the 98 (a bit more pricy but still not "premium" and then premium which is 98 + additives n better fuel overall

  36. PREMIUM FUEL IS A Petroleum Industry Ripoff!!… …Your better off getting a
    99 cent bottle of gas treatment and adding it to regular unleaded!!

  37. The oil companies representative is a liar here. A persons who has no dignity by lying through his teeth. Unfortunately, all the big companies in the U. S. forced their employees to lie. There are no exception, the only thing is who can tell a bigger lie. It’s a sad country.

  38. My Mustang does have better performance with the higher-end gas. I can tell because there's a slant where I turn around, with the lower-end gas my car will reverse downhill even when it's in drive, with the higher-end gas my car will not reverse downhill when the car is in drive. It also has more power. It's a noticeable difference.

  39. I once put regular in a rented Benz, and it sounded like somebody put rocks in a blender. Some cars are tuned for it, but there's absolutely no reason to use it in a car that isn't.

  40. um…. something doesn't seem right. If the computer is able to compensate for a higher octane fuel to achieve the same power it should be using less!

    In my personal experience I got marginally better mileage in winter months…. when it was -35 degrees C.

  41. The higher octane doesn't actually clean your engine or make your car better. The higher octane gas is for high performance cars such as chargers or challengers. They need the higher octane for their engine because of the high performance

  42. You should have done a 1995 or even the 81 model car and test it that's where the difference comes in at.

  43. This is so misleading. Not every car has a knock sensor. They wanted you to believe what they were trying to market. You need to know your car and simply follow your car's engineer's recommendation for the performance of your vehicle. Forget all these misleading videos that try to have you look at things the way they want you to.

  44. My 2.5 altima runs smoother on 91 octane and up..the 87 makes it vibrate on idle and pings when i step on it hard

  45. it depends what car you own actually. check what gas your car needs, my 2008 bmw 328i runs premium cause of the compression it need to detonate its important you research what fuel your car needs, it will save lots of money in the long run. trust me i hate spending more than 20 bucks for half a tank but i need to take care of my car.

  46. Use premium fuel in lawnmower and other smaller engines less ethanol so less likely to cause issues with starting come spring. Yogawoman is not doing yoga she is not wearing lulu pants.

    Higher grade gas won’t give you higher mpg it depends on weather plus driving conditions how well the car is maintained weight in the car etc etc

  47. Brings in a N/A Corvette owner to cover the preformance car aspect… But it's so wrong about high quality fuel on built motors, especially boosted motors…

  48. My 04 Cavalier gets better performance with 89 and 93. 87 octane fuel in my car causes poor performance on hills on which I am surrounded by. The extra money per gallon is worth it for my car so it's up to how your car performs on what fuel.

  49. When you get a car the manual tells you the kind of gas you get. It depends on the engine. If you put wrong type of gas it can damage it.

  50. So he's kind of contradicting what he's saying. First he says there is no point filling up with premium unleaded, but track days he will? what's the logic behind that?

  51. The gas industry is screwing the American public why not only for the high-octane but because every one of the gas stations have different prices if you go to Florida and go through state Route 40 in Ocalla every gas station have different prices that one is the same they’re all up high or low who do you trust maybe you ought to look at that price gal Ching all over the state of Florida

  52. Now I’m confused, I have an Acura, the manufacturer says it is requirable to use Premium Fuel, I’ve been putting Premium since I got it and I never put Regular on it, am I just wasting like a couple of bucks more for no reason or do I really need to believe what i just watch. It all seemed strange since they’re testing this things on a pretty base model car.

  53. My 1991 Audi required at least 91. I use Chevron 94. Because I don’t want corn alcohol in it. Over three hundred thousand kilometres and still runs good.

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