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SIGN UP AT A NEWSLETTER BY GOING TO AXIOS.SIGN UP.COM. TO AXIOS.SIGN UP.COM.>>”MORNING JOE” STARTS RIGHT>>”MORNING JOE” STARTS RIGHT NOW. NOW.>>>ON MY ORDERS, THE UNITED>>>ON MY ORDERS, THE UNITED STATES MILITARY HAS BEGUN STATES MILITARY HAS BEGUN STRIKES AGAINST AL QAEDA STRIKES AGAINST AL QAEDA TERRORIST TRAINING CAMPS AND TERRORIST TRAINING CAMPS AND MILITARY INSTALLATIONS OF THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS OF THE RETALIATORY REGIME IN ZBLANS RETALIATORY REGIME IN ZBLANS AFTER 2014, WE WILL SUPPORT A AFTER 2014, WE WILL SUPPORT A UNIFIED AFGHANISTAN AS IT TAKES UNIFIED AFGHANISTAN AS IT TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS OWN RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS OWN FUTURE. FUTURE.>>OUR BRAVE TROOPS HAVE NOW>>OUR BRAVE TROOPS HAVE NOW BEEN FIGHTING IN THE MIDDLE EAST BEEN FIGHTING IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ALMOST 19 YEARS. FOR ALMOST 19 YEARS.>>AND AFGHANISTAN VERY MUCH IN>>AND AFGHANISTAN VERY MUCH IN THE NEWS THIS MORNING. THE NEWS THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO “MORNING JOE.” “MORNING JOE.” IT’S MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9th. IT’S MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9th. WITH US WE HAVE POLITICAL WRITER WITH US WE HAVE POLITICAL WRITER FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES” AND FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES” AND NAME POLITICAL ANALYST NICK. NAME POLITICAL ANALYST NICK. THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNSEL ON THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNSEL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND AUTHOR OF FOREIGN RELATIONS AND AUTHOR OF THE BOOK “A WORLD IN THE BOOK “A WORLD IN DISARRAY” RICHARD HAAS. DISARRAY” RICHARD HAAS. AND AUTHOR OF THE MATRIARCH, AND AUTHOR OF THE MATRIARCH, SUSAN PAGE IS WITH US. SUSAN PAGE IS WITH US. SEEP YORE WRITE AT “POLITICO,” SEEP YORE WRITE AT “POLITICO,” JAKE SHERMAN, AN MSNBC JAKE SHERMAN, AN MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR. CONTRIBUTOR. AND JOURNALISTS AND RESIDENTS AT AND JOURNALISTS AND RESIDENTS AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY SCHOOL, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY SCHOOL, FOREIGN SERVICE, ALIZE LABBOTT FOREIGN SERVICE, ALIZE LABBOTT JOINS US. JOINS US. WE’RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE WE’RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE SECRET MEETING THE PRESIDENT SECRET MEETING THE PRESIDENT LEARNED ON TWITTER THAT IT WAS LEARNED ON TWITTER THAT IT WAS CANCELLED. CANCELLED. THE MEET WOULD HAVE HAPPENED THE MEET WOULD HAVE HAPPENED YESTERDAY JUST DAYS BEFORE THE YESTERDAY JUST DAYS BEFORE THE 18th ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11. 18th ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11. THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE CANCELED THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE CANCELED THE MEETING AFTER THE TALIBAN THE MEETING AFTER THE TALIBAN CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR A CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR A BOMBING IN KABUL LAST THURSDAY BOMBING IN KABUL LAST THURSDAY THAT KILLED AN AMERICAN SOLDIER THAT KILLED AN AMERICAN SOLDIER AND 11 OTHERS. AND 11 OTHERS. TRUMP TWEETED IN PART WHAT KIND TRUMP TWEETED IN PART WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WOULD KILL SO MANY IN OF PEOPLE WOULD KILL SO MANY IN ORDER TO SEEMINGLY STRENGTHEN ORDER TO SEEMINGLY STRENGTHEN THEIR BARGAINING POSITION? THEIR BARGAINING POSITION? THEY DIDN’T. THEY DIDN’T. THEY ONLY MADE IT WORSE. THEY ONLY MADE IT WORSE. IF THEY CANNOT AGREE TO A IF THEY CANNOT AGREE TO A CEASEFIRE DURING THESE VERY CEASEFIRE DURING THESE VERY IMPORTANT PEACE TALKS AND WOULD IMPORTANT PEACE TALKS AND WOULD EVEN KILL 12 INNOCENT PEOPLE, EVEN KILL 12 INNOCENT PEOPLE, THEN THEY PROBABLY DON’T HAVE THEN THEY PROBABLY DON’T HAVE THE POWER TO NEGOTIATE A THE POWER TO NEGOTIATE A MEANINGFUL AGREEMENTNY WAY. MEANINGFUL AGREEMENTNY WAY. U.S. OFFICIALS TELL NBC NEWS U.S. OFFICIALS TELL NBC NEWS THAT THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE THAT THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE MEETING WITH TALIBAN LEADERS MEETING WITH TALIBAN LEADERS BEGAN ABOUT A WEEK AGO. BEGAN ABOUT A WEEK AGO. PRESIDENT TRUMP FIRST DECIDED TO PRESIDENT TRUMP FIRST DECIDED TO HOLD A MEETING WITH THE GROUP HOLD A MEETING WITH THE GROUP AND THE PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN AND THE PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN IN WASHINGTON. IN WASHINGTON. BUT LATER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA BUT LATER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF HOSTING THEM AT CAMP DAVID. OF HOSTING THEM AT CAMP DAVID. AS “THE NEW YORK TIMES” NOTES, AS “THE NEW YORK TIMES” NOTES, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST HEADLINE GRABBING BIGGEST HEADLINE GRABBING MOMENTS OF HIS TENURE, WAS PUT MOMENTS OF HIS TENURE, WAS PUT TOGETHER ON THE SPUR OF THE TOGETHER ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT AND THEN CANCELED ON THE MOMENT AND THEN CANCELED ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT. SPUR OF THE MOMENT. THE USUAL NATIONAL SECURITY THE USUAL NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL PROCESS WAS DISPENSED COUNCIL PROCESS WAS DISPENSED WITH. WITH. ONLY A SMALL CIRCLE OF ADVISERS ONLY A SMALL CIRCLE OF ADVISERS WAS EVEN CLUED IN. WAS EVEN CLUED IN. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED BOLTON VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED MEETING WITH THE TALIBAN. MEETING WITH THE TALIBAN. AND BOLTON HAD AN ALLY IN VICE AND BOLTON HAD AN ALLY IN VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE. PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE. OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE FAMILIAR OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER TELL NBC NEWS WITH THE MATTER TELL NBC NEWS THAT AMONG THE CONCERNS OF THAT AMONG THE CONCERNS OF ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO OPPOSE THE MEETING WAS THAT IT OPPOSE THE MEETING WAS THAT IT MIGHT TAKE PLACE AROUND THE MIGHT TAKE PLACE AROUND THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE 9/11 ATTACKS. ANNIVERSARY OF THE 9/11 ATTACKS. PENCE ARGUED AT ONE POINT THAT PENCE ARGUED AT ONE POINT THAT SUCH A MEETING COULD SEND THE SUCH A MEETING COULD SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE TO MEMBERS OF THE WRONG MESSAGE TO MEMBERS OF THE U.S. MILITARY WHO HAVE FOUGHT U.S. MILITARY WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND BEEN KILLED BY THE TALIBAN AND BEEN KILLED BY THE TALIBAN FOR YEARS. FOR YEARS. ONE SENIOR ADMINISTRATION ONE SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL SAID. OFFICIAL SAID. ANOTHER CONCERN AMONG SOME ANOTHER CONCERN AMONG SOME ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WAS ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WAS THAT ELEVATING THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ELEVATING THE NEGOTIATIONS TO A MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT TO A MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT AT CAMP DAVID MIGHT LATER AT CAMP DAVID MIGHT LATER EMBARRASS TRUMP IF A DEAL FELL EMBARRASS TRUMP IF A DEAL FELL APART. APART. MEANWHILE, SECRETARY OF STATE MEANWHILE, SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WENT ON ALL FIVE MIKE POMPEO WENT ON ALL FIVE SUNDAY TALK SHOWS TO DEFEND HIS SUNDAY TALK SHOWS TO DEFEND HIS PEACE EFFORTS AND THE DECISION PEACE EFFORTS AND THE DECISION TO HOST THE TALIBAN AT CAMP TO HOST THE TALIBAN AT CAMP DAVID. DAVID.>>IN THE END, IF YOU’RE GOING>>IN THE END, IF YOU’RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE PEACE, YOU OFTEN TO NEGOTIATE PEACE, YOU OFTEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME PRETTY HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME PRETTY BAD ACTORS. BAD ACTORS. THERE HAVE OFTEN BEEN THERE HAVE OFTEN BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WAR AT CAMP DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WAR AT CAMP DAVID. DAVID. THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PEACE THERE AS WELL. ABOUT PEACE THERE AS WELL. BEEN SOME PRETTY BAD ACTORS BEEN SOME PRETTY BAD ACTORS TRAVEL THROUGH THAT PLACE TRAVEL THROUGH THAT PLACE THROUGHOUT RECORDED HISTORY. THROUGHOUT RECORDED HISTORY. IT WAS AN IMPORTANT PLACE. IT WAS AN IMPORTANT PLACE. IT’S A PLACE WHERE WE THOUGHT WE IT’S A PLACE WHERE WE THOUGHT WE COULD CONVINCE ALL THE LEADERS COULD CONVINCE ALL THE LEADERS OF AFGHANISTAN, PRESIDENT GHANI OF AFGHANISTAN, PRESIDENT GHANI AND HIS TEAM, AS WELL AS THE AND HIS TEAM, AS WELL AS THE TALIBAN, WE COULD CONVINCE THEM TALIBAN, WE COULD CONVINCE THEM TO BEGIN TO HEAD IN A DIRECTION TO BEGIN TO HEAD IN A DIRECTION THAT WOULD CREATE BETTER THAT WOULD CREATE BETTER CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND IN CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND IN AFGHANISTAN. AFGHANISTAN.>>DOES THIS MEAN TALKS ARE OFF>>DOES THIS MEAN TALKS ARE OFF COMPLETELY? COMPLETELY?>>SO FOR THE TIME BEING THAT’S>>SO FOR THE TIME BEING THAT’S ABSOLUTELY THE CASE. ABSOLUTELY THE CASE.>>IF YOU’RE THE TALIBAN>>IF YOU’RE THE TALIBAN CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN WORSENING CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN WORSENING AND THEY’RE ABOUT TO GET WORSE. AND THEY’RE ABOUT TO GET WORSE. WE’RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE REGION EVERYONE IN THE REGION UNDERSTANDS THAT AMERICA WILL UNDERSTANDS THAT AMERICA WILL ALWAYS PROTECT ITS NATIONAL ALWAYS PROTECT ITS NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. SECURITY INTERESTS.>>RICHARD HAAS, THERE IS SO>>RICHARD HAAS, THERE IS SO MUCH TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH MUCH TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THIS PROPOSED MEETING PUT THIS PROPOSED MEETING PUT TOGETHER AT THE SPUR OF THE TOGETHER AT THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT. MOMENT. JUST COMES UP WITH AN IDEA A JUST COMES UP WITH AN IDEA A WEEK AGO AND THEN HE’S GOING TO WEEK AGO AND THEN HE’S GOING TO HAVE A CAMP DAVID SUMMIT WITH, HAVE A CAMP DAVID SUMMIT WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN KILLING AMERICANS NOW FOR 19 KILLING AMERICANS NOW FOR 19 YEARS WHO ARE SAVAGED TOS TO THE YEARS WHO ARE SAVAGED TOS TO THE OWN PEOPLE, DO UNTOLD THINGS TO OWN PEOPLE, DO UNTOLD THINGS TO THE WOMEN OF THAT COUNTRY. THE WOMEN OF THAT COUNTRY. ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST OF THE ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST OF THE WORST. WORST. BUT STEPPING BACK FROM THAT, BUT STEPPING BACK FROM THAT, JUST WHO DONALD TRUMP WANTED TO JUST WHO DONALD TRUMP WANTED TO TAKE TO CAMP DAVID, WE COULD TAKE TO CAMP DAVID, WE COULD LOOK AT THE WAY HE HAS PLANNED LOOK AT THE WAY HE HAS PLANNED SUMMITS WITH KIM JONG-UN AS WELL SUMMITS WITH KIM JONG-UN AS WELL AS THE TALIBAN AND OTHERS AND AS THE TALIBAN AND OTHERS AND THIS IS A MAN WHO PUT FAR MORE THIS IS A MAN WHO PUT FAR MORE FORESIGHT AND FAR MORE PLANNING FORESIGHT AND FAR MORE PLANNING INTO HIS BEAUTY PAGEANTS AND INTO HIS BEAUTY PAGEANTS AND CLUB GOLF TOURNAMENTS THAN HE CLUB GOLF TOURNAMENTS THAN HE HAS — AND I’M DEAD SERIOUS, HAS — AND I’M DEAD SERIOUS, DEAD SERIOUS — PUT MORE DEAD SERIOUS — PUT MORE PLANNING AND FORETHOUGHT INTO PLANNING AND FORETHOUGHT INTO HIS BEAUTY PAGEANTS AND CLUB HIS BEAUTY PAGEANTS AND CLUB GOLF TOURNAMENTS THAN HE IS THE GOLF TOURNAMENTS THAN HE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DIPLOMATIC MOST IMPORTANT DIPLOMATIC MEETINGS THAT THE UNITED STATES MEETINGS THAT THE UNITED STATES COULD BE FACING RIGHT NOW. COULD BE FACING RIGHT NOW.>>LOOK, THERE’S SO MANY WAYS TO>>LOOK, THERE’S SO MANY WAYS TO GO AT THIS. GO AT THIS. ONE IS IT SHOWS THE PRESIDENT’S ONE IS IT SHOWS THE PRESIDENT’S UNLIMITED AND TOTALLY MISPLACED UNLIMITED AND TOTALLY MISPLACED CONFIDENCE IN SUMMITRY AND THE CONFIDENCE IN SUMMITRY AND THE POWER OF HIS OWN PERSONALITY IN POWER OF HIS OWN PERSONALITY IN THESE ONE-ON-ONE SETTINGS. THESE ONE-ON-ONE SETTINGS. SECONDLY, IT REVEALS THAT THERE SECONDLY, IT REVEALS THAT THERE IS NO PROCESS IN THIS IS NO PROCESS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. ADMINISTRATION. THERE IS NO SERIOUS THERE IS NO SERIOUS POLICY-MAKING PROCESS WITH THE POLICY-MAKING PROCESS WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS COME VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS COME TOGETHER, WEIGH INTELLIGENCE. TOGETHER, WEIGH INTELLIGENCE. BUT MOST OF ALL, THIS JUST BUT MOST OF ALL, THIS JUST REPRESENTS A FUNDAMENTAL REPRESENTS A FUNDAMENTAL MISREADING OF AFGHANISTAN AND MISREADING OF AFGHANISTAN AND THE TALIBAN. THE TALIBAN. THE TALIBAN ARE NOT A THE TALIBAN ARE NOT A NEGOTIATING PARTNER. NEGOTIATING PARTNER. THE ONLY THING YOU CAN NEGOTIATE THE ONLY THING YOU CAN NEGOTIATE IS NOT PEACE, IS AMERICAN IS NOT PEACE, IS AMERICAN WITHDRAWAL. WITHDRAWAL. IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, FINE. FINE. BUT LET’S NOT CONFUSE IT WITH BUT LET’S NOT CONFUSE IT WITH PEACE. PEACE. WHAT WE’RE SIMPLY DOING IS WHAT WE’RE SIMPLY DOING IS LEAVING AND SELLING OUT OUR LEAVING AND SELLING OUT OUR PARTNERS. PARTNERS. WHAT WE NEED IS NOT A WHAT WE NEED IS NOT A NEGOTIATING STRATEGY WITH THE NEGOTIATING STRATEGY WITH THE TALIBAN. TALIBAN. WHAT WE NEED IS A CONSULTING WHAT WE NEED IS A CONSULTING STRATEGY WITH THE AFGHAN STRATEGY WITH THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT. AND THE QUESTION OUGHT TO BE HOW AND THE QUESTION OUGHT TO BE HOW LONG DO U.S. TROOPS STAY? LONG DO U.S. TROOPS STAY? WE COULD PROBABLY LIVE WAY WE COULD PROBABLY LIVE WAY REDUCTION IN TROOPS. REDUCTION IN TROOPS. WHAT KIND OF LONG-TERM MILITARY WHAT KIND OF LONG-TERM MILITARY AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANT ECONOMIC AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANT ECONOMIC AND DIPLOMATIC SUPPORT WE GIVE AND DIPLOMATIC SUPPORT WE GIVE THEM. THEM. THE GOAL OUGHT TO BE THAT THE GOAL OUGHT TO BE THAT AFGHANISTAN NEVER AGAIN BECOMES AFGHANISTAN NEVER AGAIN BECOMES A LAUNCHING PAD FOR TERRORISM A LAUNCHING PAD FOR TERRORISM AGAINST AMERICANS. AGAINST AMERICANS. BUT THERE IS NO PEACE TO BUT THERE IS NO PEACE TO NEGOTIATE GIVEN WHO THE TALIBAN NEGOTIATE GIVEN WHO THE TALIBAN ARE AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY CONTINUE TO ENJOY SANCTUARY OUT CONTINUE TO ENJOY SANCTUARY OUT OF PAKISTAN. OF PAKISTAN. THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THESE THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THESE TYPES OF WARS. TYPES OF WARS.>>THE IRONY THAT A POLITICIAN>>THE IRONY THAT A POLITICIAN WHO CAMPAIGNED ON STRENGTH HAS WHO CAMPAIGNED ON STRENGTH HAS PROVEN TO BE SUCH A PATSY FOR PROVEN TO BE SUCH A PATSY FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN AND FOR KIM VLADIMIR PUTIN AND FOR KIM JONG-UN AND NOW THE TALIBAN JONG-UN AND NOW THE TALIBAN TRYING TO DESPERATELY COBBLE TRYING TO DESPERATELY COBBLE TOGETHER A MEETING WITH THE TOGETHER A MEETING WITH THE TALIBAN TO TRY TO MAKE PEACE TALIBAN TO TRY TO MAKE PEACE WITH THEM AT CAMP DAVID, AGAIN, WITH THEM AT CAMP DAVID, AGAIN, WITH NO FORESIGHT, NO PLANNING, WITH NO FORESIGHT, NO PLANNING, NO TRAGIC GUIDANCE FROM ANYONE NO TRAGIC GUIDANCE FROM ANYONE ELSE. ELSE. BECAUSE, OF COURSE, HE DIDN’T GO BECAUSE, OF COURSE, HE DIDN’T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROCESS INSIDE THE THERE IS NO PROCESS INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE. WHITE HOUSE.>>WELL, YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT,>>WELL, YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT, JOE. JOE. I MEAN, I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP I MEAN, I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP SAW THE DEAL SHAPING UP, HE SAW THE DEAL SHAPING UP, HE WANTS A DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN WANTS A DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN BECAUSE HE WANTS TO FULFILL THAT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO FULFILL THAT CAMPAIGN PROMISE OF GETTING OUT CAMPAIGN PROMISE OF GETTING OUT OF AFGHANISTAN. OF AFGHANISTAN. SO HE ACTUALLY IF YOU REMEMBER SO HE ACTUALLY IF YOU REMEMBER LAST MONTH IN BEDMINSTER HE MET LAST MONTH IN BEDMINSTER HE MET WITH HIS AIDES. WITH HIS AIDES. THEY WERE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THEY WERE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT IT THEN. IT THEN. AND TRUMP BASICALLY SAID, AND TRUMP BASICALLY SAID, LISTEN, I NEGOTIATED WITH KIM LISTEN, I NEGOTIATED WITH KIM JONG-UN, I NEGOTIATED WITH JONG-UN, I NEGOTIATED WITH PUTIN, I NEGOTIATE WITH PUTIN, I NEGOTIATE WITH PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA, I CAN DO PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA, I CAN DO THIS BETTER. THIS BETTER. AND SO THAT’S WHEN HE DECIDED, AND SO THAT’S WHEN HE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING ON THAT YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING ON THAT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1st JUST MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1st JUST BEFORE LABOR DAY TO BRING BEFORE LABOR DAY TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. EVERYBODY TOGETHER. BUT, AGAIN, AS RICHARD SAID, BUT, AGAIN, AS RICHARD SAID, IT’S MORE ABOUT THE PAGEANTRY, IT’S MORE ABOUT THE PAGEANTRY, IT’S MORE ABOUT GETTING THEM IN IT’S MORE ABOUT GETTING THEM IN THE ROOM. THE ROOM. AND THEN I THINK HE GOT COLD AND THEN I THINK HE GOT COLD FEET. FEET. AND IT WASN’T ONLY THE U.S. THAT AND IT WASN’T ONLY THE U.S. THAT KIND OF CANCELED THE MEETING. KIND OF CANCELED THE MEETING. YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT HAVE PUT THE FINAL STAMP TON HAVE PUT THE FINAL STAMP TON WITH THOSE TWEETS WHERE ARE WITH THOSE TWEETS WHERE ARE WHICH I MIGHT KALIL’S TEAM WAS WHICH I MIGHT KALIL’S TEAM WAS CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED. CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED. I THINK IT COMPLICATES THINGS I THINK IT COMPLICATES THINGS FOR THEM. FOR THEM. THEY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE THEY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING. MEETING. BUT THE TALIBAN WASN’T THRILLED BUT THE TALIBAN WASN’T THRILLED ABOUT COMING BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T ABOUT COMING BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T WANT TO BE COMING TO MEET WITH WANT TO BE COMING TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE A DEAL PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE A DEAL WAS SIGNED. WAS SIGNED. AND AFGHAN PRESIDENT GHANI AND AFGHAN PRESIDENT GHANI DIDN’T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE DIDN’T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE HERE WHEN HE’S NOT EVEN HERE WHEN HE’S NOT EVEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE TALIBAN. NEGOTIATING WITH THE TALIBAN. SO AS YOU BOTH — AS YOU AND SO AS YOU BOTH — AS YOU AND RICHARD BOTH SAID, THERE’S NO RICHARD BOTH SAID, THERE’S NO VISION, THERE’S NO STRATEGIC VISION, THERE’S NO STRATEGIC PLAN AND CERTAINLY NO PLAN AND CERTAINLY NO CONSULTATIONS WITH THE CONSULTATIONS WITH THE GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT. AND IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT AND IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT NOW BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOW BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, ZAL KALIL SAD’S TEAM WANTS TO ZAL KALIL SAD’S TEAM WANTS TO MAKE THIS DEAL. MAKE THIS DEAL. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TWEETED PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TWEETED BEFORE AND IT HASN’T REALLY BEFORE AND IT HASN’T REALLY MEANT ANYTHING, THEY KEEP MEANT ANYTHING, THEY KEEP TALKING. TALKING. SO I THINK YOU CAN EXACT THEY SO I THINK YOU CAN EXACT THEY WILL PICK UP TALKS AGAIN. WILL PICK UP TALKS AGAIN.>>AND NICK, THERE’S ALWAYS A>>AND NICK, THERE’S ALWAYS A TWEET FOR EVERY OCCASION. TWEET FOR EVERY OCCASION. EVERY OCCASION. EVERY OCCASION. AND THIS IS NO EXCEPTION EITHER. AND THIS IS NO EXCEPTION EITHER. OF COURSE LET’S PUT IT UP. OF COURSE LET’S PUT IT UP. WHILE THIS WAS FROM 12, JANUARY WHILE THIS WAS FROM 12, JANUARY OF 12, WHILE BARACK OBAMA IS OF 12, WHILE BARACK OBAMA IS SLASHING THE MILITARY, HE IS SLASHING THE MILITARY, HE IS ALSO NEGOTIATING WITH OUR SWORN ALSO NEGOTIATING WITH OUR SWORN ENEMY, THE TALIBAN, WHO ENEMY, THE TALIBAN, WHO FACILITATED 9/11. FACILITATED 9/11. IF ONLY BARACK OBAMA COULD HAVE IF ONLY BARACK OBAMA COULD HAVE IMAGINED THAT SEVEN YEARS LATER IMAGINED THAT SEVEN YEARS LATER ON THE EVE OF THE 9/11 ON THE EVE OF THE 9/11 ANNIVERSARY DONALD TRUMP WOULD ANNIVERSARY DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE ESCORTING THE TALIBAN TO CAMP BE ESCORTING THE TALIBAN TO CAMP DAVID TO TALK PEACE WHILE DAVID TO TALK PEACE WHILE UNDERCUTTING OUR AFGHANISTAN UNDERCUTTING OUR AFGHANISTAN ALLIES WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLIES WOULD HAVE BEEN UNIMAGINABLE. UNIMAGINABLE. AND OF COURSE THIS COMES THE AND OF COURSE THIS COMES THE SAME WEEK WE FIND OUT THAT HE, I SAME WEEK WE FIND OUT THAT HE, I BELIEVE, ILLEGALLY STEALS MONEY BELIEVE, ILLEGALLY STEALS MONEY FROM THE PENTAGON BUDGET AND FROM THE PENTAGON BUDGET AND FROM FACILITIES FOR THE CHILDREN FROM FACILITIES FOR THE CHILDREN OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO DEFEND OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO DEFEND THIS COUNTRY ACROSS THE GLOBE THIS COUNTRY ACROSS THE GLOBE FOR A POLITICAL PROJECT. FOR A POLITICAL PROJECT. AGAIN, IT’S A TWEET FOR EVERY AGAIN, IT’S A TWEET FOR EVERY OCCASION. OCCASION. AND THIS DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING AND THIS DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING DESPERATELY TO LEAVE AFGHANISTAN DESPERATELY TO LEAVE AFGHANISTAN TO THE TALIBAN, AL QAEDA, AND TO THE TALIBAN, AL QAEDA, AND ISIS. ISIS.>>WELL, JOE, PEACE TALKS HAPPEN>>WELL, JOE, PEACE TALKS HAPPEN WITH YOUR ENEMIES AND NOT WITH WITH YOUR ENEMIES AND NOT WITH YOUR FRIENDS. YOUR FRIENDS. SO HAVING THE TALKS IS NOT A SO HAVING THE TALKS IS NOT A PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHAT WE SAW WITH THE TWEETS THIS WHAT WE SAW WITH THE TWEETS THIS MORNING OR LAST NIGHT IS THAT MORNING OR LAST NIGHT IS THAT THE STATE OF THE REASON FOR THE STATE OF THE REASON FOR PULLING OUT OF THESE TALKS WAS PULLING OUT OF THESE TALKS WAS NOT THE ACTUAL REASONS. NOT THE ACTUAL REASONS. SO HE’S SAYING IT HAS TO DO WITH SO HE’S SAYING IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ENERGY OF AMERICANS AND THE ENERGY OF AMERICANS AND THESE ATTACKS IN KABUL, I THESE ATTACKS IN KABUL, I BELIEVE. BELIEVE. IT’S ACTUALLY HAVING DO WITH IT’S ACTUALLY HAVING DO WITH PROBLEMS ON HIS OWN TEAM AND PROBLEMS ON HIS OWN TEAM AND DIVISIONS ON THE ACTUAL DEAL. DIVISIONS ON THE ACTUAL DEAL. IT’S THE CREATING OF A MOMENT AS IT’S THE CREATING OF A MOMENT AS OPPOSED TO SITTING BACK AND




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  1. CONald does NOT care about PEACE, ALL he CARES about is to win THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. LOL! At ANY cost! LOLOL! WHY? Because. President Barack Obama WON IT! How DARE a BLACK man have the ADMIRATION & RESPECT OF THE WORLD! It ALL goes back to THE RACISM FESTERING in his INNARDS!

  2. The Taliban are far worse than the Medieval barbarians! They are crazy, ruthless fanatics, and it is just terrible misfortune, to be a woman in Taliban run country. They would put all women again, back into the big "sacks" from had to feet, and when outside, they can only look at he world, and speak through small opening at the top, which is also covered with a dense net, just as we can see on TV, that some women still wear it on Afghan streets, probably forced to wear it by their "religious" husbands. However, their backwardness and their way of living is their problem, because the country run by Taliban has no chance to survive economically for very long. Our problem is, how to stop this unnecessary, useless and costing taxpayers, hundreds of millions of dollars every year, while getting noting in return. What options do we have ?? Negotiating with Taliban doesn't make sense, because they will never accept our conditions, which are probably, demanding from them to accept the Ghani's government, which they know that it is our puppet and Ghani has American citizenship; and we would also want them to accept continuous presence in Afghanistan of our small Intelligence personnel including CIA, or whatever. This they will never accept, so any negotiations with them, is just a waste of time.
    So, the only options we have, is to keep on fighting this useless war, or just pack up and live them to their miserable fate.
    Is it unthinkable? I don't know. We did that in Vietnam, and why we couldn't do the same in Afghanistan? Not very good solution, but can anyone come up with any better one? At least, we would stop wasting a lot of money there for nothing…….

  3. There's a reason why Trump wants our military out of Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with concern for them or peace. It' s all about the $$$, which will be clear soon enough. He has a friend interested in the "business".

  4. "Our troops have been fighting in the Middle East (Afghanistan) for about 19 years…" Sorry Trumpski, you uneducated dumbfuck, but Afghanistan is part of Asia.

  5. Trump does something stupid – media outrage – rinse & repeat. No-one is going to effect change by doing the same thing over & over.

  6. Fake news, MSNBC! No one should believe this corrupted bought for fake media! One of very few things Trump is right about is calling you out Fake News! WhoIs JohnYang is trending on Twitter! Fake journalism! Corrupted fake progressive, MSNBC belongs to graveyard!

  7. I wonder who is going to write a book about all his lies I hope someone is because the world needs to see these and know they are all of Trumps mouth and the lies that come out of his mouth

  8. So here is Trump playing with dictator countries and these countries are laughing at him,in the meantime we are loosing all of our allies because they know what this game is all about,Trump is playing with fire and the US is the one getting burned,this is a dangerous game for the US 😡

  9. I would like to say to the American people don't you'll think this potus needs to go if you'll agree with me hit👍we need to vote blue in 2020 so america🇺🇸could get back to normal

  10. For the President to invite the Taliban for the peace negotiation is like Prime minister Churchill inviting heads of the Nazi party to the 10 downing street for peace talk during the WW2.

  11. Why would you think that your 1% corporate masters give a $hit about you or your children! The filth of man, your owners have been preparing to thin out their herd of human livestock. Still thinking you going get some trickle down. Open your eyes, your Idol god drumpf is the master of evil, filth and hate. He encourages the haters of life and is laughing deep inside his vile disgusting Gentile heart. And you still don't get it yet, understand your place in this world of the filth of man.
    youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A You should watch the whole thing, but at least start it at 8:23 , you see the start of phase 2; this is where we are today. Still haven't made enough money, waiting for your owner's trickle down!

  12. The whole charade was yet another ploy for self aggrandisement for Trumptydumbty; an opportunity for fluff, pomp and hot air and grandstanding his importance. As usual, it was an idea cobbled together on a whim, no plan, no pre-negotiations, no follow-up, no strategy, no cognisance of where and when he was having this meeting, no forethought about effects on the world scene – etc. ie the usual absolute schmozzle. So – there goes another powder keg – primed and ready to explode at any time.

  13. People need to LISTEN to donald trump.
    I remember when he told his base about how much he love money.
    trump will and always will tell on himself.
    Just listen to the sick man of Russia.

  14. You have one crazy president, putting at risk the safety of America and the truly Democratic countries who are suppose to allies!

  15. I invited the devil to my home for tea, on the anniversary of him killing my brother and sister, without letting Mum or Dad know. Then, I realised the devil was still killing my friends, and was not really interested in change. But I just want you to know, I’m trying and maybe could of made peace with the devil, as I’m so good negotiating with other evil leaders.

  16. No one asked him to run for President! He just wanted to run so that he can build contacts with foreign countries and governments.

  17. Trump is lining up his insanity defense. Get smart and IMPEACH! Our political system is geared in a way where Trump will never see prison. Even if he does, Pence can pardon him. So we are at square one. Just Impeach now!

  18. The only reason the Drumph supposedly canceled the meeting with the Taliban is that it would have taken place at Camp David and not at one of Drumph's properties. He couldn't make any money so he killed it… that is, of course, if the agreement to meet was even true in the first place.

  19. I can remember when we said, "America will never stoop lower than Bush, surely they'll learn from this level of embarrassment". Well you proved us wrong America, I no longer think Trump is the lowest level I'll see.

  20. Imagine. Drumpf, face to face, with a room full of murderous thugs. Maybe he figured out, at the last moment, that this was not going to end well.

  21. I trust no president who cuckholds our allies, while making love to murderous dictators-behind closed doors while refusing U.S. representation to be present. Vote this danger out.

  22. Trump is a thief! Abusing tax payer dollars to keep his personal businesses afloat. Why pay taxes to line the Trump organizations pockets? Vote these criminals out.

  23. Tally up the 2016 ballots! Make the people who voted Trump into office pay for his deficit. I refuse to financially support he and his sick family.

  24. Thank God these talks are Dead and we should be thankful that Trump did actually turn from this direction! Obama, more than any other President, on the other hand; had regular (according to White House visiting records) meetings with the “Muslim Brotherhood” which MSNBC did not take him to taste on! In point of fact; Obama did more than any President to strengthen the hand of Jihad against America. Remember; he was instrumental in supporting the ‘MusIim Broherhood’ push to power in Egypt, actively supporting them and penalising those opposing their rise to brutal power. I have over 20 years researching Islam, its primary text, theology, schools of law, history, it’s ‘Threat Doctrine’ directed towards non-Muslims (Jihad) and everything contributing to the comprehensive Islamic Worldview. Between June 2001 and mid 2010 I regularly attended Islamic meeting for Muslims by Muslims, that I might understand what Islamic leaders were saying to, especially their men. I am telling you this to say the following; There is absolutely nothing to be gained for Peace (ie: Peace from a Western understanding) by negotiating with the Taliban but a whole lot to loose! Any peace talks with the Taliban are understood by them to be weakness, to be taken advantage of, that is all! If you understand Islamic groups like the Taliban you know that the meaning of ‘Compromise’ or ‘reconciliation’ when negotiating with the unbelievers (America, us); have an entirely different definition to our Western understanding. The Jihad group view these same terms as your weakness and as an opportunity to gain ground by non-kinetic, if not kinetic means. Their strategic aim or goal is always to eventually bring you to submit to the rule of Sharia, this is always the intention. The so called, by us ‘Peace Talks’ or ‘Reconciliation, Compromise’ efforts will be understood by them to be purely an opportunity for a ‘Tactical Manoeuvre’ under the umbrella of their overarching strategy to bring us under the rule of Islam, Sharia. War against the unbelievers (that’s us) theologically can NEVER HAVE AN END until all are brought to submission to Islam. There is a proven successful way to deal with this problem but not until we understand the ‘Threat Doctrine’ we are up against. Teza from Sydney Australia

  25. Why are you even talking about this? You make it sound like Trump and his administration are actually being Political. What a Joke.

  26. Yeah, Trump is going down his checklist of ridiculous campaign promises. He desperately wants to get the wall up, even though Mexico isn't paying for it. He will break laws, usurp Congress' budget authority and violate the Constitution to do it. He wants to yank all troops from the Middle East with no plan to ensure stability in the region. He's desperately trying to force China to negotiate on trade. None of these things are going to work out favorably for the US. He's failing on every front.

  27. Well, let's not forget the Taliban used to be America's friends back when Russia was at war with Afghanistan. The USA trained and funded Bin Laden and his ilk. Maybe trump thinks he can fix that relationship. Just kidding : Americans are moron with a moronic president.

  28. Trump planning a meeting with the Taliban while we mourn 9/11.
    It’s breathtakingly insensitive and harsh.
    Does Trump understand American’s shared and tragic experience on 9/11?

  29. Pakistan is A Country Supporting Evils Islamic Extremist Terrorist 🐀👹 .We all wants ,Like & Need Peace But what kind peace ?
    Is the Peace Of Stupid,Evils, Killer A heinous, immoral Talibans? The answer is NO•
    We Must Stand United For Beautiful Peace for Beautiful Afghan People’s for Now & Future•
    🇦🇫❤️🇺🇸✌️

  30. This is 45 again planning a disgusting event. He did it when he ordered ICE raids at the same time as El Paso was picking up the pieces after a terrorist attack. He will spin the narritive later.

  31. trump so stupid , he forgot 9/11 and planned meeting, then made up excuse to not go forward after advise from some of his staff. this man steps in his own crap daily.

  32. I am a Dem 99% of the time..and i have no problem negotiating peace with anyone. But the more simple plan. Just get the heck out of there. Thats why they are killing us…we are in their country.

  33. Comrade Trump-ski is using American coffers to keep his failing businesses afloat.  How long will the GOP Castrati allow this out-of-control criminally insane man boy to run amok? The Criminal-in-Chief's love affairs with Little Kim, Daddy Vlad-dy, and the Taliban are a threat to our national security.

  34. Just wondering: When the USA wanted to attack, some allies – such as Norway and Denmark – joined in. Norway lost as many soldiers per capita as the USA. Now the USA want to stop – apparently without discussing with their allies. It shows a total disrespect for the allies of the USA.

  35. More fake news from Morning Joke. BTW…CNN said hurricane had potential to reach as far inland as Alabama. So, Trump was right. TRUMP 2020 !!!

  36. Why would Trump announce a failed secret meeting between him and the Taliban? Trump clearly wanted an A for effort. and he was working overtime for the Nobel Peace prize that he so desperately wants. So when talks collapsed he wanted to salvage as much as he possibly could from the failed negotiations. The Taliban was stupid they could have struck a deal with Trump where everyone would have gotten something they wanted. Trump would have had an opportunity at a Nobel Prize; the Taliban could have foresworn any efforts to regain control of Afghanistan at least until Trump left office. Trump had already sold out the Afghan government by not telling them of the secret negotiations between his Administration and the Taliban.

  37. Oh yea, the Taliban is so bad – trained by the US, by the way. Is the Taliban worse than the US – butchering 3m people in Vietnam, 1m in Iraq, supporting jihadists in Syria, helping the Saudis to annihilate Yemen, killing the leader of Libya and leaving it in chaos. Get real you bunch a*holes

  38. Morning Joe is too illiterate to understand the phrase "keep your enemies closer". Its a smart person who follows that to learn of oppositions plans, It was Bill Gates who said "Sometimes the lambs have to lie down with the wolves. modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, … All warfare is based on deception. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. … Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory

  39. 1 dead 11 maimed…Jeez…Jacova born on March 11 that knows 7.5 billion people better than they know themselves since 1998…the year my son Zechariah Wolf Orion was born on November 5th…Or the fact that his father died of Lou Gehrigs Christmas Eve 2004…How's your pancake make up

  40. Right wing backwood tRump idiots and their imbecile children who they had to send to ROTC because they contained zero discipline in their lives (wonder where that could’ve come from) mad that tRump is taking military money from them now? Awww boo hoo 😂

  41. With Caligula in the White House, it's a shame the lack of courage from the GOP and Congress to remove him from Office.
    What more evidence of insanity do we need?

  42. Dems and Reps are crooks and liars. I must say thou that this is very entertaining. In 3 or 6 years, no one will be talking about dope 45. Same circle.
    Taliban/AlQueQue/Sisi/meeting with the pres. HA. I have dibs on the next name.How about COBRA?
    That's like a real terrorists org giving prisoners to Jesse Jackson because they dislike the current president.

  43. If this mtg would have happened – no president ever would truly be safe at Camp David. Delierious Donald is putting us all in real danger!

  44. This is hard for me to admit but Bolton was right about disagreeing with Trump meeting the Taliban. Especially around 9/11 on American soil.

  45. There was never a meeting planned.. another Trump ruse only by his enablers since he does not have the intelligence to concoct such a scheme. Maybe

  46. Trump: "Look. I negotiated with these other leaders. See how well it's going with China, Russia, and North Korea? Let me have a swing at totally screwing things up with the Taliban, too. Afghanistan will love me."

  47. What disappointments and anger me a child of an honorable devoted army man is that of veterans being so silent regarding this recklessness and abandonment of concern for our military and their family. The Taliban at Camp David bull crap. Not on this soil. 3,000 plus they killed, countless 1st responders still dying daily because they answered the call on 911 and we invite the their murderers to eat and dine and laugh on our soil. This is on you CIA, HLS AND FBI. GET IT DONE.

  48. President Trump should have the Airforce destroy the poppy fields and then pull our people and equipment out of Afghanistan.

  49. What a hypocrite now all the sudden one soldier is killed and he back tracks why this soldier so different to all the others that have been killed since 2016😂😂😂😂🤮🤮🤮🤮😮😮😮😮🥺🥺🥺🥺👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿💩💩💩💩🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

  50. A meeting would need two parties, needles to say the Taliban surely was never informed, as the plan was to cancel this meeting anyway.
    Dear USA you are being played by your top conmann.

  51. All lies, Trump the actor trying to once again distract the American public. Thought princess Jared was going to bring peace to the world?

  52. Just imagine – In this lying cheating crooked seemingly traitorous corrupt racist propagandist Trump criminal enterprise administration backed by a complicit corrupt GOP Republican Swamp supported by foreign donors praised by ruling hard line dictators emboldened by religious institutions – mislead patriots – fanatics and freaks favoured by far right wing white national suprematists – fascists – sexist bigots racists and communist Russia electively producing hard line right wing state sponsored Trump TV blatantly promoted by Fox propaganda fake news media – John Bolton was the voice of reason – NOW THATS A GREAT CONCERN FOR EVERY VOTING AMERICAN

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