Activism That Will Work REALLY QUICKLY

so I want to talk about something today that's kind of a follow-up of a topic that's been increasingly important in the era of government in which we currently find ourselves which is activism and this sort of feeling of helplessness that many of us understandably have what can we actually do to affect change and to get the government and its really kind of a partnership between government and industry to listen to us to just listen to people and a lot of our viewers and listeners write in and there's a theme to those emails which is signing petitions doesn't really work voting is important calling our elected officials matters but what else can we actually do to protest and to activate and to try to get change to take place in a way that would actually be good for the general public and the population and there's a number of interesting works papers books on this topic that I've recently been looking at and to remind you of where we we kind of left this conversation before the argument that we've been working with or that I've been working with anyway is that various forms of nonviolent resistance I believe in the long term are more effective than violence we're more likely to win agreement and be able to engage in negotiation with governments and Industry when we use nonviolent means of resistance then violent now understandably sometimes you are activating in opposition to actions by governments or industry that can be even if not physically violent politically violent or violent in the detrimental impact that they have on people and so I completely understand that in history there have been times for violent resistance but to kind of recap for our conversation I believe that we are going to be more effective activists if we do the right type of nonviolent resistance the two methods or tactics that I previously have talked about a bunch of times now are civil disobedience and general strikes we've already talked about those before the idea of using general strikes and civil disobedience to cripple large swathes of government and industry in a way that would be very difficult to ignore it doesn't guarantee and I apologize as I punch my mic because I'm starting to get wound up in anticipation of the rest of the story it doesn't guarantee that the activism will have the results we necessarily want but they are means that we'll be much more effective in getting a response than simply signing petitions online but I have other ideas to talk to you about today now full disclaimer most people literally can't afford to do the stuff I'm about to tell you most people are at huge risk put themselves at huge risk to your own finances to the finances of your family to your own existence as sort of a free person in society but the idea is that with all of the tactics I'm about to tell you to discuss with you if everyone does it or a large number of people do it you're less likely to be targeted as an individual for doing it and it will very quickly cripple systems that society depends on and it may it may get the negotiating powers to the table to really look at effecting change so again most people aren't willing to do this stuff right now I'm mostly also not willing to do a lot of these things because of the risk that's associated with it but it's good to know that there are more things you can do other than right your elected officials and show up at a rally and sign petitions online and vote if the system works poorly enough more and more people will be willing to take it to the next level non-violently and some examples include strategic defaulting okay strategic defaulting is when a borrower makes a decision to stop making their payments mostly we're talking about mortgages when we talk about strategic defaulting economists consider that a concerted strategic defaulting efforts in the mortgage industry would collapse the banking industry unless there were massive government bailouts and you would very quickly get both the financial industry which is responsible for many of the problems we're dealing with and the government to say we've got to do something and it can't just be starting to ding the credit reports of all these people if enough people do it okay that's the key thing class-action lawsuits can be used as activism if you have enough activist lawyers willing to file them class-action lawsuits against industry for their destruction of public resources maltreatment of public individuals and customers class-action lawsuits can be used and masked to cripple both companies and the court system but you need a concerted effort to actually do it mass rallies in urban areas but to such a concerted degree that the cities are effectively shut down if this happens in one place sort of authorities can kind of keep the system moving if the largest twenty cities in the United States are flooded with people for mass rallies everything from public transit to business gets overwhelmed people can't go to work don't have to be violent but we've got to be there rallying you will very quickly see that the system cannot simply ignore that stopping all non necessary financial consumption this means no new iphone unless yours literally doesn't work anymore no eating out you buy the minimum groceries necessary this will have a massive impact on the economy right away withholding scheduled payments beyond mortgages we talked about strategic defaults on mortgages this could be withholding rent payments utility payments general fiscal non-compliance stop paying speeding tickets and property taxes and again if one person does it if a few people do it they just get penalized for it if enough people do it this stuff will cripple these systems that are in charge of the financial system and that are dependent on those payments coming in now what's important to understand here Pat is that in the short term a lot of these types of activism can actually hurt people who are doing the activism it can hurt workers via layoffs it can hurt small businesses but eventually if coordinated in large quantities these are types of protests that will fall the government in industry to act will it work not necessarily but my point here is it's good to know that you can do more than just vote sign petitions and call your elected officials not too long ago I read Nelson Mandela's memoir a long walk to freedom and he talked about the four types of violent activism those included everything from sabotage to guerrilla warfare to terrorism and all the way to outright revolution now I would never advocate for those last three and certainly apartheid South Africa is far different than what we have here in Trump's America today but sabotage that's an interesting one because that has to do with just tearing down government property obstructing roadways vandalism I guess you could say it's violent but it's not violent against particular people is that something not certainly that you would endorse but that you would put on the table as something that could be effective that could work well the thing is that the tactics you listed some I think would be over the line and are clearly violent and some would sort of be on this side of the line so I think we'd have to sort of evaluate exactly which tactic we are talking about destruction of government property would would be one thing peaceful obstruction of roadways I think is a different one but you're thinking along the lines of how do we categorize these different types of activism and my message to you here is that there are other tactics available if and when it's time to use them is sort of a gray area that we can kind of continue having a conversation about

  1. You leftist goons don't realize you've already won. It is the traditional conservatives that are now forced to use "activism" against you, to carve out a little pocket of sanity in a sinful world gone mad.

  2. Work with one on the groups trying to remove Citizen's United decision by legislation or amendment to the constitution. Several states are already behind the amendment movement. We need 38 states to ratify an amendment.

  3. Activism that puts you in jail for disobeying laws, and other ideas David proposes, indicate his lack of understanding for how to change how our political system functions as an autocratic republic. His ideas preserve the power of governing in the hands of politicians, who ignore the citizens they are supposed to represent.

    Like others who claim to be activists, and so-called community organizers, he is stuck in 18th century political reform tactics. I’ve yet to find just one of these “activists” who understands they are advocating tactics that keep them and their followers as unwitting political slaves of politicians. Not one yet, who can grasp the power of our 21st century technologies to elect honest and transparent representatives. However, I suspect that many are operatives of our two private political parties, who intentionally want to keep their political employers in power.

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  4. Defaulting on your mortgage, not paying your utility bills, etc. These are actions that are VERY risky. Not paying your bills will lead to bad credit ratings, which in turn will lead to difficulty finding a new job, difficulty of finding a new home (whether that be as a homeowner or even in a tenant situation) and difficulty obtaining additional credit, among other things. I understand that you are claiming this should be done by MANY people to be effective, but how can you possibly ensure that will be the case? Yeah, Donald Trump had no problem becoming president despite all of his bankruptcies, but I'm not Donald Trump, and I don't think destroying my credit is a very wise move

  5. If you understand credit cards & bank loans in general, I think refusing to pay credit card debt is not only powerful, but actually, the right thing to do.

  6. Compelling video. It's generally true that the people underestimate the amount of influence they have over the system if coordinated well enough.

    However, I can't help but imagine that once this movement gains any traction that we will be heavily demonized and scrutinized. For instance, "strategic defaulting? Well guess what, we're going to bump up interest/variable rates on mortgages and blame you for it in the media." "Boycotting all non-essential needs (including restaurants)? Well guess what, here's a sweet looking family who had to close down their humble restaurant due to poor sales, and it's your fault." etc. etc. I hope my point is coming across clearly.

    Has anyone considered or witnessed anything like what David proposes in the past? Would be very interested to learn more about it.

  7. I think what would actually have an impact would be getting people to understand the basics of education, or at least not be fanatics about anti-education/anti- and pseudo-intellectualism… Stupidity and arrogance, as a pair, are always more dangerous than pure, naive ignorance. In fact, any scientist would casually acknowledge they don't know everything, that's one of the most basic things for aquiring knowledge, or correcting, improving one's opinion… It's the childish poser ego and partly convenient laziness of the internet that makes people fail to get that. It is nothing more than a kind of shamelessness regarding immaturity, the most obvious and embarassing thing in the world just 4 years ago…

  8. A follow up to Pat's point at the end if you are interested in seeing how that works in practice look into the recent Extinction Rebellion protests in the UK, the guys who set up the group basically went around doing town halls and asking people if they were willing to do civil disobedience and get arrested, you literally have to sign saying you are willing to be arrested to join. And then they talk about what you're willing to risk, if you don't want to risk more than a slap on the wrist it'll be one of the bigger events like shutting down brides in London, blocking traffic. If you don't mind a night in the tank some some have hung massive and quite offensive banners and been done for nuisance I think. A few of them super glued themselves to a government buildings windows so the police couldn't move them, think a few climbed some statues and they had to shut the area down for health and safety. All these got media coverage over here, and that's the point these actions can't just be ignored like a petition can, it causes a stir, it makes good TV when you refuse to move and force the police to carry you out so cameras show up and then the issues are being covered.
    Guardian did a video piece on them if you're interested, I think it's the future of how protests should be.
    And if you happen to be the UK I recommend you check out their website, they have a video lecture by a PHD BioChem organiser on there which explains what they're about

  9. This whole thing is just another round of "If a lot of people would do this, it'd work." It's the "lot of people" that's been the problem throughout history, not any specific act.

    It always starts with a small catalyst and I think we already have the best one – real liberals in congress. Now that people see what is possible, a lot more corporatists will lose 2020 primaries. And it's going to be a lot of fun watching the corporate 2020 presidential candidates forced to sound like liberals again and again.

  10. Best thing would be a general strike (for very specific goals), but stay at home instead of protesting or rallying. This way the "authorities" can't beat you up, round you up or provoke violence.

  11. Life is so boring there is nothing to do except spend all our wages on the latest skirt or shirt.
    Brothers and Sisters, what are your real desires?
    Sit in the drugstore, look distant, empty, bored, drinking some tasteless coffee? Or perhaps BLOW IT UP OR BURN IT DOWN. The only thing you can do with modern slave-houses — called boutiques — IS WRECK THEM. You can’t reform profit capitalism and inhumanity. Just kick it till it breaks.

    Communique 8
    The Angry Brigade

  12. The horse-whip makers of the 19th century weren't saved by going on strike. The interest of workers isn't the only thing a society ought to be concerned with.

  13. 1:20 nonviolence never worked. Neither in short, nor in long term. Checķ works of Peter Gelderloos for example.
    Restricting yourself to the means that are allowed to do in the game that's rigged from the start is just stupid. No ruling group would ever allow the effective means of resistance.

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