ABC News Republican Presidential Debate: The Biggest Fail


Ted Cruz>>Well, under the definition of torture, no, it’s not. Under the law, torture is excruciating pain that is equivalent to losing—
losing organs and systems. So under the definition of torture, it is not. It is enhanced interrogation. It is vigorous interrogation. But it does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture. MODERATOR: If elected president,
would you bring it back? Ted Cruz>>Uh, I would not bring it back in any sort of
widespread use. And, and indeed— [audience murmuring] I joined with Senator McCain in legislation that that would prohibit
line officers from employing it because I think bad things happen when enhanced interrogation is employed at lower levels. Cenk Uygur>>I think that was the biggest fail of the debate. I know Rubio sweating up a storm is a fail, but it’s—you know, it’s hard to summarize that in a line. But there, he got caught off-guard,
which Cruz doesn’t normally do. He prides himself on, you know, being the
debating king of Princeton and all that. And they’re like, “Oh, okay,
you’re against waterboarding.” And he’s like, “Oh, no! I’m not going to look
as much of a barbarian as I need to.” And then they’re like, “So what would you do?”
And he’s like, [stumbling noise]. And they laughed at him.
Ana Kasparian>>Yeah. Cenk>>They laughed at him. That’s a fail.
That’s a fail-and-a-half. Ana>>It is a fail. And also it was a
wishy-washy answer, right? Because— John Iadorola>>A tortured answer.
Ana>>Right.
Cenk>>Ooh! Ana>>It is a tortured answer, because— Cenk>>Very clever, Johnny. Ana>>He couldn’t say, “No, no, no—I’m actually
in favor of waterboarding completely.” So he said, “Ehh, I’ll waterboard in some circumstances. I’m not entirely sure which circumstances
those would be.” [laughs] Jimmy Dore>>Yeah. And it’s kind of a little bit contradictory that he’s for carpet bombing,
but limited use of torture. Ana>>Right. Jimmy>>[laughs] He’s really… he’s really…
he splits hairs on his war-criming. [All laughing]




Comments
  1. i thought the moderator will ask "do you want to try it?". And they have the equipments ready. That's how you bring the rating up.

  2. If terrorist is held captive and you say to him "We can't torture you because our general ignorant population is against it" and then you say "Now tell us everything you know and answer our questions honestly"
    Terrorists says "Blah Blah". WTF is going on with these stupid asss questions? Of course countries torture terrorists to get answers.

  3. Okay close your eyes and listen to this clip but picture everyone talking as Iranian. See? This is how the rest of the world views America. Scary. Scary that most Americans are on the fence about torture and which methods are considered barbaric and which ones are not. When in fact any use of torture tactics is totally unacceptable.

  4. I'm not sure they were laughing at him… maybe Trump or someone else made a funny gesture? I don't think even a GOP crowd is so tough that they just laugh openly at someone for stumbling in their answer

  5. Every time this comes up I always think someone should ask them that if waterboarding is not torture but acceptable would they be ok with, lets say, Iran using it on captured US soldiers? I mean if it's ok to be done by US it should be ok done by Iran, North Korea etc, right?

    Hell, lets make it simpler; everyone that is for waterboarding not being torture should be waterboarded. And not just one time, but a few dozen times without the knowledge when it will stop. Then you can tell me it's not torture.

  6. Ever been waterboarded? We did it for shits and gigs in the military. Not fun. Try it out Ted. Tell me it's not torture.

  7. Well they already succeeded in redefining child hitting as corporal punishment. But when scars as left then that is the only point of going too far. Sounds quite like torture.

  8. That Wacky Nazi
    Donald Trump wants to do things that are "a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding."http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gop-debate-torture-waterboarding_us_56b6ae8ce4b04f9b57d9e72c

  9. We should waterboard Cruz and see if he still considers it enhanced interrogation or torture after it's all done.

  10. Teddy, we executed Japanese interrogators after WWII for water boarding American POWs. Under US and international law Waterboarding is illegal.
    A provision of U.S. law (18 U.S.C. 2340) that took effect in 1994 makes torture a crime.
    The law defines torture as "an act committed by a person acting under
    the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or
    mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to
    lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical
    control."
    The Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment of Punishment (the Torture Convention) was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on Dec. 10, 1984 and
    entered into force on June 26, 1987, after it had been ratified by 20
    states. The United States ratified the convention on Oct. 21, 1994. It defines
    torture as "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical
    or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as
    obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession,
    punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is
    suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a
    third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind,
    when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or
    with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person
    acting in an official capacity."

  11. Water boarding simulates drowning. It is terrifying beyond comprehension and is 100 times worse than root canal. Cruz is an asshole.

  12. We need one big stage for the waterboarding list, starting with Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Joe Scarborough the Fox news crew… etc., etc..

  13. From Webster's:

    Torture
    : the act of causing severe physical pain as a form of punishment or as a way to force someone to do or say something
    : something that causes mental or physical suffering : a very painful or unpleasant experience

    I think Ted Cruz is getting his definitions from Conservapedia again. In fact let's check:

    "The term torture refers to acts which inflict severe pain or mutilation on prisoners."  

    That seems to match what Cruz was saying but it goes on, "It is a matter of dispute whether it serves any valid purpose to distinguish between degrees or levels of torture. To some opponents, "torture is torture" and should always be prohibited. The US maintains that its coercive interrogation techniques are not "torture". While this position has met with considerable resistance from legal experts nationwide[8], former President George W. Bush vetoed the McCain Amendment, which was intended to tighten the definition of torture. Ironically, under the current administration's definition of "torture", the abuse Senator McCain received while a POW in Vietnam would not be considered torture."

    So basically, as Cruz did on stage, you can redefine the words to fit your agenda and everything is ok.  Such as calling POW's "Unlawful Combatants"  instead of prisoners of war to scurry around the UN definition of a prisoner in order to perform torturous acts.

  14. You guy's were really reaching on this one TYT. Cruz was right and though he stumbled a bit his response was the correct one when looked at in context.

    The biggest fail? Your attempt to discredit him on this by cherry picking a tiny slice of his total answer. NO, I don't want to see Cruz in the White House but your bias is way over the line here.
    I'd say nice try but….nah, it's a fail.

  15. is it only me or is there something strange about that laughter?

    listen closley at 0:27

    it seems that the laughing sound pops in suddenly.
    maybe they just cut off the backround noise when the someone is using their microphone… but it seems kinda strange…

  16. Give Jessie the Body Ted Cruz, a waterboard, and 30 minutes, he'd make Cruz confess to the Kennedy Assassination. Would Senator Cruz consent to being waterboarded for one minute to see if it is torture? We all know the answer to that!

  17. Thats the John Yu fabricated definition of torture as dictated by the George W regime. EVERY OTHER nation on the planet called what was done in our name TORTURE.

  18. Goddamn…..Does Senator Marco Rubio have a Molly addiction because he keeps sweating up a storm and reaching for that bottle!

  19. The only prominent Republican (McCain) that has experienced torture at the hands of an enemy refers to waterboarding as torture in no uncertain terms. These guys are all monsters.

  20. I'm ok with him saying that he does not think it technically qualifies as torture, but he should have followed it up by saying he would not bring it back because our best experts on interrogation are all quite clear that it is not an effective means of getting reliable information and is much more useful for our enemies to use in Anti-American propaganda.

  21. I cannot believe that there are people out there who are voting for this idiot. Honestly, what is going through his mind at this point?

  22. 0:28 I love how Cruz's eyes suddenly got brighter when we remembered his talking point. Almost audible sigh of relief when he could hide behind someone like McCain.

  23. Ted Cruz makes me sick. This guy is always afraid to admit what he supports. That shows that he say ANYTHING to get votes. I'm surprised that the Republicans want such a deceptive moron in the Oval Office. The only people who he can deceives are his constituents. He would be squashed in a one on one debate.

  24. No way! The biggest fail was so obvious. When they were introducing the people on the stage and Ben Carson doesn't know what's going on and just stands there.

  25. Ever asked yourself why we in the rest of the world think that the US are the biggest Threat to world peace and the most dangerus terrorist out there? Because of these "christian" republican guys.

  26. So if Cruz becomes President, would he issue posthumous pardons to those the United States convicted of torture for water boarding prisoners during WWII? Will he officially apologize on behalf of our country to the descendants of the Japanese and German men we wrongfully punished for torture, when in retrospect they were merely conducting 'enhanced interrogations?' Will we pay some kind of reparation to the children and grandchildren of the Nazis we imprisoned for it?

  27. So waterboarding in WWII by the Japanese: Torture! Torture! We must never do it!

    Waterboarding by US: eh its enhanced interrogation , torture? lol lets not get carried away.

  28. Torture: the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain…
    So the real question is: Is Water boarding severely painful?

  29. As soon as he uttered the words "enhanced interrogation," I knew that anyone who learned from Dick Cheaney's bullshit would automatically dismiss him.

  30. There are countless videos on this site of people, knowing that someone would stop, volunteering to be water boarded. None of them say it was a piece of cake, they all give up in 15sec or less. We had a torture report come out last year, identifying people who have died from such "enhanced interrogation" methods. If it is not torture or curl or unusual punishment, why are people, let alone ONE person; losing their life over said practice?

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