Ted Cruz>>Well, under the definition of torture, no, it’s not. Under the law, torture is excruciating pain that is equivalent to losing—
losing organs and systems. So under the definition of torture, it is not. It is enhanced interrogation. It is vigorous interrogation. But it does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture. MODERATOR: If elected president,
would you bring it back? Ted Cruz>>Uh, I would not bring it back in any sort of
widespread use. And, and indeed— [audience murmuring] I joined with Senator McCain in legislation that that would prohibit
line officers from employing it because I think bad things happen when enhanced interrogation is employed at lower levels. Cenk Uygur>>I think that was the biggest fail of the debate. I know Rubio sweating up a storm is a fail, but it’s—you know, it’s hard to summarize that in a line. But there, he got caught off-guard,
which Cruz doesn’t normally do. He prides himself on, you know, being the
debating king of Princeton and all that. And they’re like, “Oh, okay,
you’re against waterboarding.” And he’s like, “Oh, no! I’m not going to look
as much of a barbarian as I need to.” And then they’re like, “So what would you do?”
And he’s like, [stumbling noise]. And they laughed at him.
Ana Kasparian>>Yeah. Cenk>>They laughed at him. That’s a fail.
That’s a fail-and-a-half. Ana>>It is a fail. And also it was a
wishy-washy answer, right? Because— John Iadorola>>A tortured answer.
Cenk>>Ooh! Ana>>It is a tortured answer, because— Cenk>>Very clever, Johnny. Ana>>He couldn’t say, “No, no, no—I’m actually
in favor of waterboarding completely.” So he said, “Ehh, I’ll waterboard in some circumstances. I’m not entirely sure which circumstances
those would be.” [laughs] Jimmy Dore>>Yeah. And it’s kind of a little bit contradictory that he’s for carpet bombing,
but limited use of torture. Ana>>Right. Jimmy>>[laughs] He’s really… he’s really…
he splits hairs on his war-criming. [All laughing]